I wrote about Max and Beth to defend Christian Trump supporters

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I wrote about Max and Beth to defend Christian Trump supporters

By Mario Murillo

As I write you, 50,000 people have read the blog that mentioned Max Lucado and Beth Moore. Today I want to clear the air about why that happened.

For me to mention the name of a fellow minister is like getting a root canal.  I only do it when all other remedies have been exhausted.  We are family.  We are all on the same team.  Christian unity is a witness to a dying world.

So then why did I put out the blog?  I did it to defend Christians who are going to vote for Trump.

Whether Max and Beth intended it or not, their remarks had the effect—I am being delicate and kind here—of questioning Christians who support Trump.

Max openly wondered how any Evangelical could follow Donald.

Beth did the same to Christian men who support Trump.  She can’t support Trump because he “objectifies women” and she believes he assaulted women.  She can’t see how any Christian man who would support Trump.

But they are both doing something else that really hurts Christians who support Trump: They are being silent about Hillary Clinton.  They have said nothing against her.  More on this later.

Other celebrity Christian leaders are doing much worse.  They have thrown millions of sincere Jesus followers into Hillary’s basket of deplorables.

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So let’s talk about Christian Trump supporters.

1.  Many of them are positive thinkers and entrepreneurs. They resonate with Trump’s winners approach to life. These are the church members most likely to give big to a vision or help pay off the building.  They are not the critics and legalistic people that hinder you pastor.

2.  Most Christian Trump supporters are patriotic. They love America.  They believe that we live in the greatest country on earth.  They are angry our laws are being disregarded by secular progressives.  They are angry with pro athletes who disgrace our flag and national anthem.  They stand with cops, the military and first responders.  

3.  The majority of Christian Trump supporters are all about common sense. They believe:

-Our trade deals with other nations make no sense.

-Political correctness is a silly idea that has morphed into a tedious tyranny.

-It makes no sense to judge Trump’s past bankruptcies while ignoring someone who will carry on Obama’s disastrous spending.

-It makes no sense to leave our borders unsecured and allow an influx of criminals.  They have committed of millions of crimes and have killed our children.

-It makes no sense to oppress the church with regulations that force Christians, Churches, and Christian employers to pay for contraceptives and abortions.

-It makes no sense to support a woman who will turn Christian witnessing into a hate crime.

-It makes no sense to reject Trump for statements he made 11 years ago when you have no proof he is not a changed man.  Bill Clinton is not a changed man.  We know from a recent statement by General Colin Powell that Bill Clinton is still committing adultery and Hillary still covers it up.

-It makes no sense to compare Donald’s tax forms to 33,000 emails that Clinton criminally erased—emails that pose a national security threat.

-It makes no sense to deny you are helping Hillary if you don’t vote—or if you vote for a third candidate.  It’s a two-person race.  Trump is the underdog.  He needs every vote he can get, and every vote he does not get, helps her.  You can numb your conscience all you want but facts are facts…if you don’t vote for him, you are helping Hillary.

– It makes no sense to talk about Trump but never talk about Clinton.

I respect both of these Christian leaders and I refuse to engage in a war of words.  Nevertheless, they need to know—innocently or deliberately—millions of sheep feel wounded and betrayed.  As I said before, what hurts them the most it is this: You speak against Trump but remain totally silent about Hillary Clinton.

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-You say Trump is rude?  How rude is it to ignore repeated cries for help and send four Americans to their death in Benghazi?   How rude is it to lie—to the parents and family of the slain at their funeral—by blaming their death on a video.

-You reject Trump because you support women?  Hillary has never denied laughing at a 12-year-old girl who was raped.  She has never denied trying to bury the women her husband raped.  She has enriched her foundation with millions from nations that kill women and enslave them.   Hillary Clinton believes it is okay to kill a baby even after nine months of pregnancy.  Abortion is murder but what does killing your baby even if its head is crowning out of the womb do to that child let alone the mother?

WHY, WHY, WHY AREN’T YOU TALKING ABOUT HER?  The believer who supports Trump is horrified by your silence.   They see you tweeting and pontificating about Trump but you offer no answer for the undoing of the Constitution—the trashing of the Supreme Court—the threat to America that Obama and Hillary’s foreign policy has created.They want to know if celebrity Christians live in a bubble.  They wonder, “what is your solution to the national disaster?”  Are you that out of touch with reality?

4. Christian Trump supporters believe voting for him is a moral thing to do:

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Laura Ingraham says her support of Trump is an extension of her faith:

“The truth is that those of us who support Trump understand all too well the reality of the choice that faces us, and are doing the best we can to save this country.

On the other hand, not voting for Trump — and hoping that he loses — also represents a moral choice:

It means aligning yourself, at least temporarily, with left-wing nightmares Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and all the other radicals who want Trump to lose.

It means turning a deaf ear to your fellow Americans who can’t take four more years of decline, and who are desperate for new leadership.

It means allowing another four or eight years of flat-lining wages and growth, and high taxes on American businesses.

It means hardening your heart against people those who have spent 40 years trying to stop abortion.

It means doing nothing when The New York Times, and The Washington Post, and every other left-wing outlet mocks and ridicules the Trump supporters as racists and bigots.

It means cheering (silently or not) along with every smear and every snide comment that Hollywood and the media can use to attack Trump’s voters.

That’s the choice the NeverTrumpers have made — a decision to do nothing, to wash their hands of the election, of the Republican Party, of the country itself.

That may represent some people’s version of morality. But it’s not mine.”

5. Christian Trump supporters believe it is all about the Supreme Court:  Columnist Thomas Sowell hit the nail on the head when he said, “The issue is judges that stick to the law versus judges who ignore the law. That is a huge distinction. It is the difference between living in a self-governing democracy and living under tyrants on the bench.”

Through his or her appointments, the next president will determine whether the federal judiciary respects its proper, limited role in our self-governing democracy, or whether we continue to slide ever further toward judicial tyranny. There is no more important issue in this election.   We already know the kind of judges she will nominate.

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Franklin Graham summed it all up: “A lot of people are slamming evangelicals for supposedly giving Donald J. Trump a pass. That’s simply not true. No one is giving him a pass. I’m certainly not, and I’ve not met an evangelical yet who condones his language or inexcusable behavior from over a decade ago. However, he has apologized to his wife, his family, and to the American people for this. He has taken full responsibility. This election isn’t about Donald Trump’s behavior from 11 years ago or Hillary Clinton’s recent missing emails, lies, and false statements. This election is about the Supreme Court and the justices that the next president will nominate. Evangelicals are going to have to decide which candidate they trust to nominate men and women to the court who will defend the constitution and support religious freedoms. My prayer is that Christians will not be deceived by the liberal media about what is at stake for future generations.”

 

 

380 thoughts on “I wrote about Max and Beth to defend Christian Trump supporters

    1. As much as I love both of them, they will have to give an account to God if Hillary wins. She will get late term abortion passed and our tax $ will pay for it. She will go after both of their religious freedom as well as ours. She will make a huge difference in America for generations to come. Quite frankly, that makes me angry that they would use their influence in such a distructive way for the direction of our country.

      1. I have lost all respect for anyone that is a Christian that will allow HILLARY to become
        President. ABORTION ABORTION ABORTION MANY MORE BABIES WILL DIE AND THEY WILL ANSWER FOR THEIR VOTE… the reason for not voting for Trump bc of what he said about women is unbelievable!!! You don’t think girl babies don’t die in an abortion, what offends me is the killing of babies yes that my Dear Christians offends me!!!!! I question their relationship with God for allowing another baby to kill because of something Trump said of did!!! ABORTION kills babies it that doesn’t offend you you need a new relationship with God!!! Your old one isn’t working!!!!

      2. I was a Beth Moore groupy as I’ve seen her live in 5 states and have done most all of her studies but I also will cease to follow her. So much for mercy and grace she talks about, so much for forgiveness. We all have skeleton’s in our closet we are not proud of, even Beth as she has attested. I am truly disappointed in her, she has become so hypocritical. I don’t see how a Christian can vote for Hillary for her stance in abortion alone. God have mercy on her soul.

      3. VERY well said! I admit I was angry and disappointed reading Lucado’s article. I thought, how can a Christian leader be so blind? Praying eyes are opened before it’s too late! Clock is ticking! Pray, ask for discernment, then vote based on policies not person, if you have to!!

      4. I am deeply disappointed in them both…As a strong evangelical I am shocked to see them take this holier than though path..We are all sinners, and I am sure both of them have said things they regret….have they ever enen tried to meet with or speak with Trump, his family, Mike Pence…I just attended A David Jeremiah rally…he was so lovely and really emphasized how urgent this election is…praying these two recognise their own humanity…

      5. Sadly the stance they have taken against Trump speaks volumes about who they truly are at heart. I have heard both Moore and Lucado talk about leaving your past in the past. About accepting Gods forgiveness. About loving one another and forgiving one another. They both rely on the Word of God. It is their breath, their blueprint for life, they say. Everything we need is in the Word of God, they say. Sadly, I see now, that for them it only applies to “certain people”. Those “they” deem “worthy”. I don’t understand how they can do this, but they do have the right of choice. God help us all, in Jesus Name.

      6. If these two ministers are true ministers of God then they would seek the Lord and realize Donald Trump is being humbled through these months , I don’t know what church they minister but they bring shame to Christianity are they holy spirit filled? I pray God opens their eyes because they have been blinded by the god of this world. I pray that these two ministers will seek God, and wake up. Shame on them.

      7. Agree. I have to wonder just who do they think they are? Their persuasion is something that should not be taken lightly. Pastors, shepherds have taken on an enormous responsibility when they get behind a podium and hold up the Word of God and then lead and direct a flock. They best be looking long, hard, and far down the road they send their hearers on, and know exactly where they’re sending them.

      8. One other comment: if a man was convicted for molesting children, and then later on possibly repented of it (or even genuinely repented of it), does the forgiveness afforded him by Christ mean that we should fully reinstate his ability to babysit your 8 year old daughter? No. What’s my point? For some choices and some areas of our lives, there can still consequences, even if we are forgiven for those choices – especially when trust and character are in question. Yes, forgiveness is always possible through Christ, but that does not mean that blanket trust is warranted. Jesus said in Matthew 3:8: “Prove by the way you live that you have repented of your sins and turned to God.”

        To accomplish things, leaders have to build trust, build rapport, and work constructively with people who don’t share their views. If they can’t do that, it may be very hard to accomplish goals that we agree with. That would be very troubling.

      9. I feel the same way! He represents so much of how I feel the country should be led! Most importantly we keep our freedom with Trump. We keep religious freedom, freedom of speech, the right to bear arms, freedom! I do not believe in murdering babies! Horrible! I want to have safe borders!! They are wrong!! Terribly wrong! They WILL have to answer to God for this!!!!

      10. I agree with so many who have written replied. It is sad that these ministers have seen fit to use an incident that is 10 years old to condemn a man. Interviews with women who willingly came forward both present and past employees have said they were always treated with respect. I had not heard about Beth Moore’s stance but had already been disappointed by Max Lucado and had determined I could not in good conscience read his material anymore. That is not meant to be hateful, I simply can not support someone who is willing to vilifying Mr. Trump while ignoring facts about Hillary her husband during the same time period. The facts you outlined in this article are very to the point. I too am angry that they would use their influence in such a destructive.

      11. Perhaps killing babies as they exit the womb and raising taxes for this heinous crime and allowing An American ambassador screaming for help to be murdered by Islamist terrorist; perhaps the prospect of 2nd Amendment rights and religious liberty being judged away by a liberal supreme court is considered less offensive in the eyes of God than a man as a private citizen having a private albeit inappropriate pubescent conversation with another man 11 years ago.
        As a woman, I am more terrified of an illegal Islamist terrorist gunning me down at the mall than locker room talk by two men who never threatened anyone.
        Perhaps the pastor(s) would like to see audio equipment in country club locker rooms throughout America to protect the American woman.
        This country is in crisis and we have just one chance to keep it from going under and —this is the pastor’s SOS?!
        Give yourself a big pat on the back if Honest Abe Hillary of proven dubious character wins this election.
        Try forgiving instead of abandoning a man who has asked for forgiveness.

      12. TAKE ABOUT AN HOUR AND WATCH THE MOVIE: HILIARYS AMERICA BY DINISH SOUZA. IT WILL DRASTICALLY MAKE YOU RE-EVALUATE YOUR IDEAS ABOUT WHAT HILIARY WILL DO FOR OUR COUNTRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      13. If you are a Christian and after examination of the two candidates and your conscience you want to vote for Donald Trump then God Bless You … follow your conscience and exercise your right to vote.

        But if you want to post a blog or a comment on facebook as to why you support Trump … Support your candidate and leave the bashing of his opponent out of the discussion.

        Vote for Trump because you believe him when he says he is Pro-Life.

        Vote for Trump because you believe his business experience will be useful in renegotiating our trade deals and bringing jobs back to the US.

        But don’t claim you are a Christian voting for Trump and then enter into a libelous outrage of half-truths and innuendos against his opponent. Such behavior is simply NOT CHRISTIAN.

      14. what a disappointment re: Beth Moore in particular! I have attended her studies which are excellent. Now I doubt her credibility and leadership from GOD!

      15. Amen! Trump has apologized and said he was sorry. He has grown daily … Available for all to see. He and his wife have humbly requested prayer from this Nation for wisdom and guidance. Maybe it will be the little people like me on bended knee offering my humble prayer for the Trumps and not people who stand before thousands with crosses around their necks and have made a fortune selling books about God’s love. I hate to think that this Nation would be my JUDGE for something I said or did 11 years ago or YESTERDAY! I’m ashamed of Max & Beth. The truth be told if evangelicals stay home because of their unforgiveness…God help this Nation!!! I am sorry for their judgement misleads their teachings and the chance for example leadership. It also means “they” didn’t do judicious research before they misspoke. Now…are they any different than Trumps words 11 yrs. ago?? My Bible study seems to say to me we are all held accountable with the same weight for our sins…when you hold a “seat of power” such as Beth & Max can weild with their words, they can move mountains … but we as Believers should not be SHEEPLE and follow without our own research and prayer! I stand forgiven and thus offer humbly my own but realizing my final judge is God and not man: Max & Beth make me glad of that. WORDS have POWER…and they can be mush in our mouth when we speak without thinking, we are all guilty. PEOPLE: help SAVE this Nation by comparing PLATFORMS AND NOT PERSONALITIES!!! Use your BRAINS ABOUT AMERICAS’ FUTURE AND NOT MISPOKEN WORDS BY BUSY PEOPLE WHO QUICKLY MADE THEIR COMMENTS WITHOUT EVIDENTIARY RESEARCH THAT WILL LEAD THIS NATION UNTO DESTRUCTION!! STUDY! The platforms are printed in the Decision Magaxine, FAIR & BALANCED!! THEN AS A CHRISTIAN MAKE YOUR CHOICE!

      16. Shame on these 2 leaders. My pastor has always preached to the christians at our church to pay close attention to some of these so called christian teachers. Just because they claim to be a christian and a follower of Jesus Christ doesn’t mean they are. If a so called christian votes for a person that’s ok with partial birth abortion & gay marriage they cannot be a follower of Jesus PERIOD !!! Be careful of the author’s of books you read also, check out the author’s views on important issues. A lady at my church is fixing to teach a lesson by Beth Moore. I will not attend, along with other’s, I do not trust what she has to say do to her voting for a person that kills babies & goes against our God that created a marriage between Man and woman. God see’s the future people. He knows people of the same sex are marrying! If he wanted this to be in his plan, he would have put in in his word, the bible!

      17. I do not vote for or against Donald Trump because he is or is not a Christian. I vote because he is seeking evangelicals advice. He chose Mike pence as his running mate. He wants to rebuild America. He wants to assign conservative judges. He wants to stop the criminal activity in our government. In voting for him, I am telling the government I am sick of their devious underhanded schemes. That is why I vote.

    2. Beth Moore! I can’t believe your stance on voting. Donald Trump is a born again Christian. Trump has repented and IS forgiven washed in the Blood of the Lamb. Isn’t it like Satan to try to place our past sins back on our shoulders. Hillary & Kane are both gunge ho supporters of 9 month end of term abortions. Not voting is a vote for abortion to continue. Now past the 60 million mark in the USA. Anyone who doesn’t vote or votes for Hillary are guilty of the Murder of the Innocence. The blood of the children will be on your hands. Beth Moore, please don’t join the flock of The Great Falling Away!

      1. I agree. I no longer watch Beth Moore and am VERY disappointed that she would vote for a woman that believes in abortion and gay marriages. Both of these are totally against the Word of God. I wonder how Beth would like it if she had to stand and watch a late term abortion of a baby and see it pulled to pieces. The nurses then have to count and make sure all the pieces are there. That is a fact !! So sad. And Max, I am shocked at you !!

      2. I, too, was a “devoted” fan of Beth Moore. I am shocked and frustrated (to put it lightly) for her stand. She, privately, can take any stand that she wishes. But, she must know, since so many have participated in her studies, the following she has. She should be ashamed of what she has said, and should come out before the election apologizing for what she has said. I was just at a Pregnancy Resource Banquet – the latest calculation for abortions is now over 7 million. And to say not to vote for Mr. Trump shouts (from one who has a large platform from which to speak) that one should vote for Hillary Clinton – who is PRO everything a Christian should be against.

      3. Matthew 7:21″Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.”

        Donald Trump says he’s not sure if he’s asked God for forgiveness, at the Family Leadership Summit in Ames, Iowa on Saturday, which led some to question the sincerity of his alleged Christian faith.

        Moderator Frank Luntz asked Trump on Saturday if he had ever sought God’s forgiveness and Trump replied, “I’m not sure I have ever asked God’s forgiveness. I don’t bring God into that picture.”

        Trump clarified further about forgiveness in the church setting saying, “When I go to church and when I drink my little wine and have my little cracker, I guess that is a form of forgiveness. I do that as often as I can because I feel cleansed. I say let’s go on and let’s make it right,” declared
        Trump.http://www.christianpost.com/news/donald-trump-im-not-sure-if-i-ever-asked-gods-forgiveness-141706/

      4. I pray daily that I am directed to people who are true Christian leaders. I’m usually very hurt after researching various people and finding out these types of things. My question is how do you get to the levels these Christian leaders are and not understand the impact of these actions. The reason forgiveness is so hard for the average Christian is that it is obviously difficult for even Christian leaders to demonstrate. I pray that God will open the hearts of his children so that they can more easily do his will.

      5. Agree- and what’s is so heartbreaking too is what has their behavior spoken to other newer Christians? Their behavior has spoken the equivalent of – Oh wait , we know you accepted Jesus but -The blood He shed on the cross- we get to decide which of your sins that covered and when- How sad – How confusing for Mr. Trump or any new believer-or those considering-
        Shame on them-

      6. Sir, while I do reluctantly support Trump, to call him a “Born again Christian ” is simply false. In Mr Trump’s own words ” I can’t think of anything that I need to ask God for forgiveness “.
        He is the lessor of two evils and has my support, however do not give him a pass on his need of a Savior….it neither helps him , or a sick Godless world.

      7. Perhaps Beth could write her last book on how she could support Hillary, the baby-killer and why she supports that Satanic ritual. I suppose Beth is just protecting her turf. If so she needs to give back millions of $ to women who have been sorely deceived.

      8. Let’s understand Trump will not change abortions laws, we have had a Republican Congress and Senate for years and they have done nothing. I am a Christian both of these candidates have not display Christian behavior, with that said I ask were is your faith .first the bible tells us not to put are trust in no man (woman).also He will take of us. Exercise your right to vote and believe and trust the Lord. And teach your children the same, they will be safe in the hands of Jesus

      9. Max and Beth may have been great Christian leaders. But they seem to have forgotten that God used many men in the Bible that as we learn what they were or what they had done would not measure up to man’s idea of being used by God. Seems Max and Beth would have said the same about these men of the Bible. So many Christians are afraid Trump is not what God would use for His purpose…From an outside perspective, we can see that It didn’t matter where people were from, what they had done, or who they use to be; Jesus used all people for the good of His will. Don’t believe me? Here are some examples of people that were used for the greatness of HIS glory.
        Abraham -Was old
        Elijah – Was suicidal.
        Joseph – Was abused.
        Job – Went bankrupt.
        Moses – Had a speech problem.
        Gideon – Was afraid.
        Samson – Was a womanizer.
        Rahab – Was a prostitute.
        Samaritan Woman – Divorced.
        Noah – Was a Drunk.
        Jeremiah – Was young.
        Jacob – Was a cheater.
        David – Was a murderer.
        Jonah – Ran from God.
        Peter – Denied Christ three times
        Martha – Worried about everything.
        Zacchaeus – Was small and money hungry.
        The Disciples – Fell asleep while praying.
        Paul – A Pharisee who persecuted Christians before becoming one.

      10. as catholics, we can not vote for anyone who is pro-abortion, nor would I ever want to. Voting for murder is not my thing. Also, my views on marriage are not the same as Hillary’s. No way do I want her for my President. On the other hand, I firmly believe that Mr. Trump will be a great president. He loves America, and is loving the people he meets during this campaign. He truly understands our plight, and will “Make America Great Again.”

      11. How can you honestly say he is a born again christian with a straight face? He has repeatedly said in public that he does not need to be forgiven and has never once said he has accepted Jesus Christ as his lord and savior. There is so much wrong with this article but saying he is a born again christian is just a lie.

    3. I so admire you for this! So many pastors are afraid to do so. Trump loves this country to run for this office as it is a step-down for him. Hillary wants us to be a Saul Alinsky socialist country. Hillary has treated women that her husband raped worse than Trump has even thought about. Look at the fine kids he’s raised! God’s Word works for all or it works for none. According to James Dobson, Trump has asked God for forgiveness–bet Hillary hasn’t ever done that since thinks she IS God and above the law. I question how any Christian can vote for Hillary when she believes in murdering babies who struggle to get in this world, about make it, & then its skull is crushed in pain just before it comes out. Everyone who supports Hillary should have to watch one of these videos before voting! God, in the name of Jesus, please intervene in this election and don’t let Hillary get elected so she can continue to destroy this country! PLEASE REMOVE THE BLINDERS FROM PEOPLE’s EYES! Please put Trump in and help him keep his promises to protect our religious freedom and stop the terrorists from coming across our borders!! God bless Trump & God bless the USA (maybe I should say USA, BLESS GOD!🙏🙏. Thank you Brother Murillo!

      1. I find it sad, that this decision seems so hard for so many believers. We know Donald is not a perfect man , far from it. But he is transparent. And if the worst thing that has been disclosed through the whole campaign is that he is a womanizer( and I find it strange that 3 woman just happen to appear 4 weeks before elections) and he doesnt pay taxes on his tax returns
        Well then there is absolutely no comparison. He says he is for life, for marriage between and man and a woman, about bringing jobs back to our country and not having made in Japan on every thing we buy. He doesn’t need money and he represents a large group of people who have been beaten down, lost jobs, pay for entitlements to those who could work but don’t. The middle class is having the life drained out from every direction and he want to change that. If we compared his pros and cons to Hillary, there is just no way , he is not the better choice. Not to mention the main reason, the Supreme Court justice positions. That alone should bring people back to reality. But as my Pastor said today, relax. It will be fine. Ana as Jennifer Rothschild says, it may not be well with our circumstances but it will be well with our souls!

    4. Right on Mario. Great to see you have the heart to stand up against evil. We are heading quickly into the one world govt. and the reign of the anti-Christ. But it is our duty to stand up and expose and oppose this luciferian elite. I still use your quote from the Resurrection City days ” I am the Christian the devil warned you about”

      1. I have every book Max Lucado has ever written, also Beth Moore’s books. I will no longer buy their material or follow them. There’s more at stake here than just an election. Wake up America.

      2. I don’t know how anyone especially Christans can vote for her.She is opposite of every thing the Bible teaches. If her lips are moving she is lying. I am sick and tired of people calling them untruths. The Bible call it lying. If we get liberal judges. Christans will have no justice. God help us. Our 2nd amendment will be gone.

    5. Thank you Mario Marillo- I was crushed by the words of these two Christian Leaders. It is impossible in my mind to support a woman who STANDS FOR PURE EVIL!

      1. Let him who is without sin, cast the first stone. Who do you believe you are if you allow Clinton to go into office. You have been blinded by Satan at this point. I ask my Father in Heaven forgive you both.

    6. I’m voting for Trump. It is clear to me why Beth Moore is not. She has been wounded by men in her past and these tapes made her wound tender again. She is unable to think about anything else. God will help her get through this and show her that further healing needs to take place in her life. We need to pray that she will come to her senses. I have always loved her and still do. I’m believing she will vote for Trump because she will hear from God.

      1. When you are an exuberant ‘teacher’ of the Word, you are expected to teach the whole council of God. Beth has been a big influence on women in particular, in fact, she is a god to most. It has been revealed to her and in her that she has a big problem with forgiveness. Forgiveness is the most important ingredient of the Scripture. I am glad to see that some women have gotten their ‘affection’ on Biblical teaching and not the teacher. I in no way am condemning Beth, because we all have to get the truth of the whole Bible in focus. Hopefully, she can come to the place of forgiving her past, and the women that follow her so devotedly, will get their focus on learning the whole Bible teachings. Am more disappointed in Max because he should have the maturity, not to vote for Trump, but to grant forgiveness to someone that has asked for forgiveness, maybe not according to the way a mature Christian would ask for, but the way a brand new beginner would ask. Some of the so called ‘people of God’, have been more damaging than either candidate has. God help us all…….

      2. Thank you for that word of understanding and love. I was thinking the same thing about her and I do agree with you to pray for her healing in that area.

      3. THAT is the compassion and grace we need to meet every response to Trump of people that are neglecting the bigger picture. That is the respect we owe people who are truly trying to find their way in this difficult election. Thank you for not adding more division to the situation.

      4. I too have been wounded by men however I’m still alive. Let’s keep the focus on the continued killing of babies.

      5. I was wondering if she had suffered in this way. I feel this in so many female responses about Trump. I too have had those sufferings, however , God led me to a very spiritual healing. I view mr. Trumps remarks about women as a man with many insecurites. The Lord has been preparing me for sometime and I knew it was for a purpose. But what?? I do know it has to do with standing firm in Jesus Christ , to the Glory of God. I am not afraid, nor ashamed to stand by Donald Trump, God is using this flawed,sinner, who has the right strengths that God needs in His plan. Donald is one man that is not a part of the political establishment. He has a strong desire to restore America’s core values, and God is using that to bring forth a new leadership that we have been praying for. I see what God is doing thru trump , I feel it in the depth of my soul. My message is “get on your knees” I see our religious freedom at stake . People , their is something bad coming if we have 4 more years of liberal progressiveness. Why would God show mercy on a nation that is turning it’s back on Him and His ways. Because soooo many Christians have been praying for this. Don’t do as the Jews, when they prayed and waited for the messiah. But when Jesus came, they could not get past this low class, peasant of a man. They rejected his most glorious words and could not feel His Holy presence. They turned a deaf ear and were blind by his looks . The Jew’s messiah would be a king, in finery fit for a royal. Do you see the comparison? Do you see what you are doing?Of course it is always your choice . But please remember, God is never finished teaching and re molding us until we reside with Him. God be with you, Jyl

      6. Amen. I too believe that Beth and Max are mistaken in their position. The Lord has used them both to bring such healing and hope to the body in the past. I chose to give them a pass on this. They missed it. I have and will again. I trust God to show them and heal them. Let’s not reject them and thrown them away. Let’s pray fervently and draw from that deep well of grace we’ve gone to for ourselves a thousand times.

    7. You have always been the voice of truth, even to your own hurt. This is the highest form of love to me, that is to love others enough to tell them the truth. Like Paul said have I become your enemy because I tell you the truth? I am a lover of truth because it sets you free and what you have said and the spirit behind it is very encouraging to me. You spoke truth, I was very disappointed when I read what Max and Beth said and you are so right about them not speaking about Hillary. Thank you brother for restoring my faith that there is a voice of truth in the midst of such a deceptive time. Bless You Mario I have always appreciated your boldness.

    8. Do you have any verses a Christian can look to to support your thesis? Or is it simply pragmatic logic that we can look to?

      How about these verses that seem to provide some clear guidance or warnings to Christians:

      “But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, have a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away!” 2 Peter 3:1-5

      “Test all things; hold fast what is good. Abstain from every form of evil.” I Thessalonians 5:21-22

      “And why not say, Let us do evil that good may come?” Romans 3:8

      “Therefore, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God.” I Corinthians 10:31

      “The fear of man brings a snare, But whoever trusts in the Lord shall be safe.” Proverbs 29:25

      “Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge Him and He will direct your paths.” Proverbs 3:5-6

      1. Then he instructed me, “Do not seal up the prophetic words you have written, for the time is near. Let the ones who is doing wrong continue to do wrong; the one who is vile, continue to be vile; the one who is good, continue to do good and the one who is holy, continue in holiness.”
        Revelation 22:10-11. This is what the angels told Told John to do after his vision.

      2. I have lost all respect for Max and Beth. They were heroes to me and have let me and all Christians down.

      3. Why do you think these verses are about Trump? The same and more can be said about HRC and BC. The things they have done and continue to do are evil! Abortion is evil!

      4. Man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God. God told me that “he does not look at the outward appearance but on the heart and Trump’s heart is for America, to bring us out of depression and to protect us and protect Israel “. When God speaks to my heart that way, I listen. You are looking at his outward conduct from years ago.

        I will pour out my spirit on all flesh your sons and daughters will prophesy your young men will see visions and your old men will dream dreams.

        You say trust in the Lord with all your heart and I am doing just that. What Beth Moore is saying is coming from her feelings not from the Lord. Feelings are not prophecy nor are they the standard to judge by. It’s easy to find scriptures to back up feelings, but Gods ways are not our ways and his thoughts are higher then our thoughts.

    9. Thank you thank you thank you for addressing this! As a former huge fan of both Max and Beth , I was horrified at their choice in speaking out at this time against Mr Trump as opposed to HRC . It was truly was shocking and painful. I have lost a lot of respect for both of them and it truly pains me to say that. Love them; yes. Respect; no:(

      1. This is a great reminder to keep our eyes on Jesus and not man (Beth and Max)
        God will use the foolish to shame the wise.
        It is so important for Gods people to vote, the only Godly choice is Pro life- psalm 139

      2. Very very disappointed in both of them. The damage Beth Moore with women . Sorry for her past but this not about her. This is about the Supreme Court. I googled Beth Moore- states she is a false prophet. Makes sense if she can do what she did . Shame on her. I hope she will be able to sleep at night if HC gets in and is responsible for killing babies.

    10. Not give Trump a pass? We sin, we repent, we are forgiven, we get on with serving God. Every Christian on the face of the earth has sinned and fallen short of the glory if God! Who are we to say one can be forgiven and another cannot? Look at King David…He took another man’s wife, then had her husband killed. Sexual sin is sin, as are all the other sins…but Jesus died for all of them. I will not pay for abortion…I truly believe God hates this! I do not want to go to jail…im in very bad health and do not think I will survive prison…but I am convicted of this…kinda where the rubber meets the road thing…

    11. Thank you for your open letter to Christians. It needed to be said. I hope it resonates with Christians before they vote.

    12. Very well said, I think most of us, especially us Christians actually hurt at the prospects before us to choose from. However, as a Christian there is only one choice. I could not with a clear conscience, vote for someone who thinks abortion is ok and that condemning Christians is ok and who will take away every right that our brave men and women of the military have died to defend, why is it a double homicide when someone kills a pregnant woman but not when that baby is aborted? SHAME on those who think none of that matters.

    13. The thing I hate most about this election is how it has divided those of us who love the Lord. I wish we could all respect each other’s differing opinions instead of trying to convince each other of how our position is the right one. I think the disunity that has been caused by all this is much worse for the cause of Christ than what might happen when one of the candidates becomes president.

      1. Too much is at stake to stay quiet to keep the peace. Never in the past two generations have we seen so many Christians speaking up. Unity might remain if there wasn’t a spirit of evil trying to silence God’s people. We have to speak up. No doubt there are Christians who have voted in all parties. So why would a Christian mind if the deciding issues are brought to the forefront in helping to rethink a vote?

      2. But that is the problem, isn’t it? We look to our own opinions and feelings to guide our choices instead of God’s Word. Our opinions and feelings matter not. It is all about God and what He says and wants. I pray people will open their hearts and minds and CHOOSE LIFE. May the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob have mercy on each of us. Thank you Father for the work and pruning you are doing in our lives and in this great nation of Yours. Help us be better partners with You and do what you would have done. We ask this in the precious Name of Your Son Yeshua.

      1. Yes while the video released of Donald Trump’s past sins put out by Clinton was shocking It is Something that happened more than 11 years ago.

        Since that time this man per Dr. Ben Carson (whose life is one of the highest of integrity has defended
        Donald because of what he calls one genuine action that took place this last year in March. That was a genuine
        committed decision Donald J. Trump made for Christ. Donald’s words were, I did not know what being a Christian truly meant. He has stated that he called himself a Christian because he believed in God, but since he made this salvation commitment he knows he did not know what salvation was.

        All have sinned and come short of the Glory of God, including those who hold themselves way up high in Christianity. Donald is a new Babe in Christ and yes our past sins. Donald’s past life satan will continue to always bring up. Whether Donald wins or not I pray for him and his new walk. That God will take him deeper
        daily into the perfection that through his own decision to repent, he will also have the love and patience for others as he grows in Christ.
        Christ has called us all to pray for our leaders I pray that everyone who calls themselves, sons and daughters of the Living God will intercede for Donald Trump, not for the positions of the world but for Gods Perfect will in his life. Regardless of what happens in the elections, that man who is influential, intelligent and can use all of that when totally led by the Holy Spirit, for the advancement of the Kingdom of God, for the betterment of mankind in making a difference. Perhaps even some of the negative responses here is because many do not know that per Dr. Ben Carson (who is by the way a man of integrity who stands behind Donald after his decision for Christ.) Perhaps you did not see where Donald on national television said regarding his past remarks, “I want to apologize for my past way of thinking and things I have said, I am ashamed of them.”

        How many of us have let carnal things be in our mouth before Christ who have not even apologized. . I have voted all my adult life, and this was going to be the first I did not. But when I heard this testimony of Donald’s I shortly after was reading where Christ had not to good things to say to the Pharisee’s (religions men) regarding who they held to a standard that they themselves did not keep. I will not be a Pharisee.

        This is maybe one of the most humbling things in Donald’s life, and we have to be totally humbled before God can use us. For those who study biblical prophecy along with church history you should know that God has given us everything we need to be prepared for (“The time of Trouble as the World has never seen before”).
        Daniel 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book

        Matthew 24:21 for then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
        Think about these scriptures, with all that has gone on in this world from Creation till now, think about all the horrible wars, the World War II, millions of sacrificed unborn. How can it be worse? God’s word says it will. If Hillary gets in it will happen faster and more babies murdered, and children will die quicker. Religious freedom to work for the kingdom in these last days going to the lost. Terrorism like we never thought possible,
        (While the sooner the better for me, I still know there are many to be evangelized).
        More homosexuality will gain precedence, more Christian persecution a more rapid rate. God’s prophetic word tells us it is going to happen either way, we have to decide to we keep seeking, intercession and making choices accordingly, so that at least more will be able to come to Christ, and we seek holiness both in our lives and pray for those new babes in Christ.

        I would rather vote for a new babe in Christ who sees the sanctity of the unborn so deeply now since he has made this decision for Christ than someone who has gone on national television and agrees killing inborn children right up to hours before delivery is the law. The Netherlands finally put into law a couple weeks ago it is law now to kill live babies, babies born live through natural delivery. (Look it up yourself) 650 babies euthanized this year.
        If Hillary gets in it won’t take long here. )

    14. Exceptional article…the exact reasons why I rejected and was put off withMax and Beth’s stance against Donald Trump. Mario, you also listed the reasons why as a Christian I am voting for Trump. Keep writing and keep preaching the unadulterated Word of God. We refuse to be silent.

    15. It is hard to not loose respect for these two people. I love reading both of their writings. But the thoughts in this blog are exactly my own thoughts and feelings. I am praying each of them will gain insight into the hurt and division their stands are causing. I pray especially for Beth who in my view, is allowing the enemy to use her past in the most negitive of ways. You are not you past. You are a redeemed daughter of the King. We are assaulted on all sides by glorify women, men and children sexually for selling products, music, etc… We must stand together or we will lose our right to freedom of worship, speech. It can not happen you say….look at history

    16. Appreciate you putting into words what I feel. I feel betrayed by Beth and Max. Especially Beth.

      It’s one thing to acknowledge bad behavior in Trump. For which he has apologized and asked for forgiveness. He is a new believer. It’s up to God to change him.

      But the words Beth used caused me to think she will vote for Clinton. And the left is using Beths words to imply that is true. Criticism of one candidate does that. Clinton is for abortion. Wasn’t that one item worth more of Beth’s time?

      I have (had) several books by both of these authors. And tapes. Quite honestly as I put them in the trash, (as I have a right to do), I cried. I no longer look up to either. Each is blinded by something, I don’t know what. I just know I have to shield myself from their words again. So it won’t hurt so much.

    17. Exactly!! Thank you so much for expressing so completely what I have been thinking and feeling about the two candidates for presidency. I feel betrayed and disillusioned by Beth Moore and Max Lucado denouncing Trump while keeping silent about Hillary’s criminal and ungodly policies and actions. I don’t understand how they could do things that will help Hillary Clinton get elected, knowing that support of a pro-abortion candidate is the same as having the blood of aborted babies on their hands, too. This is a cautionary tale, and a wake up call, that highlights that we are to follow Christ, not Christian leaders.

    18. For those who are failing to support Trump, who is the only candidate for Christians, you are “willing to throw the first stone”? The last time I checked, we who name the name of Christ are all “sinners saved by Grace!”

    19. I am so happy to see you write this post. I look in the scriptures and see no where where God only uses the perfect man to get His plan done. The only One was Jesus Himself. In fact what I see is God looking for a person who will say Send me Maybe that is what this is all about. 🙏

    20. I read what Beth Moore said and I was not impressed with her statement about Trump! He has confessed his sins and asked to be forgiven… WE cannot judge him and NOT judge Hillary R. Clinton! Remember… her husband that did very serious damage to woman when HE was the President of the USA??? She knew most of his romantic affairs, paid some women off with hush money!!! SHE wants to kill babies and tell us Christians how to worship!! Not what our country needs! Not to mention, when she was in control of answering our military people when they needed her!! Whew, she is a mean and nasty woman!!! Mr. Trump will back the USA and that’s WHY most of these people are against him…. he can’t be bought!! TRUMP all the way!!!

    21. I have felt in my spirit that God is up to something with this election. Scholars of the Bible know that
      God has used some unusual characters in the past to deliver His people. God knows what is in our future and what kind of personality will best handle the challenges. I think that after hearing that Trump is trying to grow out of that carnal man and maybe for the first time in his life is surrounding himself with Godly people, it makes us no different that the one that has called people irredeemable if we write him off. I am excited to see what God is up.

      1. as you have stated his ability to surround himself with Christian leaders and want to learn and grow and be able to change his decisions as he understands is a true leader says:

        Carol I feel the same way! Maybe God will choose not to but I truly believe God May just do some very cool things with and through Mr. Trump. as you have stated his ability to surround himself with Christian leaders and want to learn and grow and be able to change his decisions as he understands is a true leader.

    22. I am really sad that these two feel this way. I just don’t understand Beth’s reasoning, Hillary takes donations from foreign countries that treat women with NO respect, that degrade women to the point of women have NO voice. Trump acknowledged his wrong actions & ask for forgiveness, God has forgiven him……
      I feel Trump has surrounded himself with GOOD CHRISTIAN men, and he has proclaimed to accepting Christ resently. I am praying these men of God will lift him up & mentor him to becoming an amazing man of God!!
      I can’t support someone who is so corrupt as a Clinton, someone who ignored men needing help in Benghazi, someone who believes it’s okay to KILL a baby in a womb at 9 months. So for me it’s TRUMP ❤️🇺🇸💙PENCE 2016 and prayers and JESUS!!!

      1. Satan uses our weaknesses to trip us up. I think Beth calls it our strongholds. Well. Beth has been tripped up in this with her stronghold. The words Trump said concerning women 11 years ago have opened wounds for Beth and it seems she can’t get passed that. Satan does this to us. I’ve learned this from Beth’s own studies. Now Satan is using this trick on Beth and unfortunately it has effected others who are not thinking and praying for themselves. She is centering in on her pain and ignoring all the greater faults of Hilary and the damage that will come to our country if Hillary is elected. I am praying for Beth and our nation.

    23. You are right. I am disappointed in those two. God permitted two choices fro President and Trump wants to keep us a Christian nation. Hillary is about herself. Many of God’s chosen are not perfect but willing. Trunmp is willing . There is not another candidate who could have stood up to all he has. He has his family around him. it is in order. I believe God sees his heart.
      I was very upset to hear how once again Christians want to not vote yet complain about abortion. Beth Moore is wrong and needs to know God’s character a little better. She knows the word but does she see Him and know him. She makes mistakes too. I wonder if she has the guts to admit them.

    24. I am shocked that Beth Moore or Max Lucado would have these attitudes! How about Hillary and all her evils?? She is the abortion queen, defends ISIS, hates Christians, did not protect our people in Benghazi, has broken laws and more. To me as a born again spirit filled believer, it is no contest. Donald is definitely the better person for the position of President of the US!! It is disturbing to find out they think like this. Thanks for sharing. I am with you!!

    25. I am truly terribly disappointed in Max Lucado and Beth Moore. I have met both and could not believe what they did to devalue my Christian witness. I cannot vote for ANYONE who can say an unborn baby up to the minute it is due to be born has no constitutional right to be born! Nothing could be more important than who will sit on the Supreme Court…liberal or conservative? Have Max and Beth had their heads stuck in their books and focused on their successes that they’ve lost touch with their core readers? I did see Max Lucado on “Fixer Upper”…maybe he’s wanting to be in the Hollywood limelight! I’ve been waiting for him to right his wrong…and terribly disappointed he has not. I’m sorry to say I’ve lost total respect for both…won’t be buying any more of their books. They have joined the liberal ranks…I forgive them but I won’t forget..

    26. Thank you so much for this blog. I am currently doing a Beth Moore study, and I just cannot receive from her anymore. As I read the study commentary, it just screams hipocracy. Today, I put it down and will find other sources. I am a woman who was sexually violated by my own father, and then the men who followed. Beth is NOT my voice. She has hurt us women who so connected to her studies. I am voting for Trump for all the reasons you listed. Luciano and Moore will be sorry if Clinton gets into office…she supports everything unGodly, including the rights of women. Shame on you Beth Moore and shame on Max Lucado as well…you will not be happy with Hillary and by withholding your vote and influencing others to do the same, you have all elected Clinton. Shame on you shame on you shame on you.

    27. So, I guess my question to all of those that profess to follow Christ on here. What if I prayed and have received confirmation that I should vote for nether Trump or Hillary, and that both will destroy this country? That I could not live with myself if I voted for either of those two horribly inept presidential candidates?

      1. Nick you need to follow Conscience, and continue seeking the Holy Spirit on this, but you also need to also make sure it is not driven decision without knowing facts that relate scripturally to God’s word. I was in the same position but a few things happened. Yes while the video released of Donald Trump’s past sins put out by Clinton was shocking It is Something that happened more than 11 years ago. And why his mannerisms up to this last spring showed no evidence I have seen more.

        Since that time this man was living a world life, per Dr. Ben Carson (whose life is one of the highest of integrity has defended. ) Dr. Carson is a member of our church. He has defended Mr. Trumps sincerity.
        Donald because of what he calls one genuine action that took place this last year in March. That was a genuine committed decision Donald J. Trump made for Christ. Donald’s words were, I did not know what being a Christian truly meant. He has stated that he called himself a Christian because he believed in God, but since he made this salvation commitment he knows he did not know what salvation was. He still does not know a lot of God’s principles but he has done something to learn them. He has picked a group of Godly Councilors. Did you know he goes into campaigns now with prayer coverings. Yes he is rough, but much is softening as he grows.

        All have sinned and come short of the Glory of God, including those who hold themselves way up high in Christianity. Donald is a new Babe in Christ and yes our past sins. Donald’s past life satan will continue to always bring up. Whether Donald wins or not I pray for him and his new walk. That God will take him deeper
        daily into the perfection that through his own decision to repent, he will also have the love and patience for others as he grows in Christ.
        Christ has called us all to pray for our leaders I pray that everyone who calls themselves, sons and daughters of the Living God will intercede for Donald Trump, not for the positions of the world but for Gods Perfect will in his life. Regardless of what happens in the elections, that man who is influential, intelligent and can use all of that when totally led by the Holy Spirit, for the advancement of the Kingdom of God, for the betterment of mankind in making a difference. Perhaps even some of the negative responses here is because many do not know that per Dr. Ben Carson (who is by the way a man of integrity who stands behind Donald after his decision for Christ.) Perhaps you did not see where Donald on national television said regarding his past remarks, “I want to apologize for my past way of thinking and things I have said, I am ashamed of them.”

        How many of us have let carnal things be in our mouth before Christ who have not even apologized. . I have voted all my adult life, and this was going to be the first I did not. But when I heard this testimony of Donald’s I shortly after was reading where Christ had not to good things to say to the Pharisee’s (religions men) regarding who they held to a standard that they themselves did not keep. I will not be a Pharisee.

        This is maybe one of the most humbling things in Donald’s life, and we have to be totally humbled before God can use us. For those who study biblical prophecy along with church history you should know that God has given us everything we need to be prepared for (“The time of Trouble as the World has never seen before”).
        Daniel 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book

        Matthew 24:21 for then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
        Think about these scriptures, with all that has gone on in this world from Creation till now, think about all the horrible wars, the World War II, millions of sacrificed unborn. How can it be worse? God’s word says it will. If Hillary gets in it will happen faster and more babies murdered, and children will die quicker. Religious freedom to work for the kingdom in these last days going to the lost. Terrorism like we never thought possible,
        (While the sooner the better for me, I still know there are many to be evangelized).
        More homosexuality will gain precedence, more Christian persecution a more rapid rate. God’s prophetic word tells us it is going to happen either way, we have to decide to we keep seeking, intercession and making choices accordingly, so that at least more will be able to come to Christ, and we seek holiness both in our lives and pray for those new babes in Christ.

        I would rather vote for a new babe in Christ who sees the sanctity of the unborn so deeply now since he has made this decision for Christ than someone who has gone on national television and agrees killing inborn children right up to hours before delivery is the law. The Netherlands finally put into law a couple weeks ago it is law now to kill live babies, babies born live through natural delivery. (Look it up yourself) 650 babies euthanized this year.
        If Hillary gets in it won’t take long here. )

    28. When the Christian community does not stand against vaccines using aborted/murdered babies in the making of vaccines (MMR, Chicken pox….do your research) and hides from this issue there is no moral ground and there is chaos and delusion. ” Blood touching blood”. Now mandated/forced vaccinations=partaking in an abortion, in the state of CA (SB277)and the “#grandma knows best” slogan , in reference to her stance on vaccines of the dem. candidate is their agenda/reality for America. They are coming after the American people. Vaccines=Someone’s abortion in a syringe.” If you haven’t studied Dietrich Bonhoeffer and his fight against the Nazi movement now is the time to read and study how a nation becomes deluded. This is truly a “Dietrich Bonhoeffer moment.”

    29. AWESOME WELL SPOKEN THANK YOU FOR DEFENDING CRISTIANS WHO HAVE MORALS AND PRINCIPLES THAT ARE JUST TRYING TO FOLLOW THE LAWS OF GOD (THAT SHALL NOT KILL) RELIGIOUS LIBERTY! I REALLY HAD A HIGH ESTEEM FOR MAX LUCADO I FELT ATTACK, BELITTLE,CONDEMN AND YOU BROUGHT UP MY LOVE FOR THEM AGAIN! THEY ARE LOOKING AT MAN NOT SIN! MY HAT GOES UP TO YOU THNK FOR BEING A TRUE MAN OF GOD!

    30. that is not how i took beth’s open letter. I took as that who ever wins God is in control. God will lead them. At this point i am a Christian that believes neither trump or clinton should be president. I do not like the idea of voting for the lesser of 2 evils . So I pray for both candidates that God guide them. I pray for the voters that God guide them. I pray for Revelation of truth so strong that the blinded eyes of all the people will see the truth despite the bias. The truth of both candidates the truth about the whole system. But the most important thing i pray is that God’s will be done. I also pray for myself because i can not see a reason for voting either one. So i ask God to direct me. I put my trust in GOD not in man.

      1. Bonnie, you and I are in the same camp. I am a Christian and I don’t feel comfortable voting for either candidate. I have been praying and asking God to allow his will to be done. I’m not putting my confidence in either because neither is worthy to be President. At the same time only God knows how to get the attention of a nation that for the most part has turned their backs to him. A lot has been said about HC and she is indeed anti-Christian. But what do we say to an angry, rebellious racist who can’t control his mouth and that comment has nothing to do with what he said 11 years ago. It’s the Donald Trump of today that acts like a maniac. Anyway, i know I’m not voting for Hillary and refuse to be guilted into voting for Trump. Still praying!

    31. CHRISTIAN & JEW: If Israel’s King David (an adulterous murderer) were running for President he would be getting the same treatment from a self-righteous media and electorate. But he was G-d’s guy. (I don’t believe Trump has been accused of murder — yet.) There is a character in the Bible who reminds some of his opponent. Her name is Jezebel. We live in interesting times.

      “For the wisdom of this world is foolishness before God. For it is written, “He is THE ONE WHO CATCHES THE WISE IN THEIR CRAFTINESS”; and again, “THE LORD KNOWS THE REASONINGS of the wise, THAT THEY ARE USELESS.”
      (1 Corinthians 3:19,20)

      1. I have listened to Beth Moore , her testimony, she is a survivor of sexual abuse, and a lifestyle that followed before coming to Christ. Her testimony is one of forgiveness. Perhaps she and Max do not know that over a year ago, Donald Trump gave his life to Christ, that comes on good reliable authority of Dr. Ben Carson, Dr. Dobson and many others Pastors who have met with him. Yes He is a rough babe in Christ. But if God forgave Beth, Max, myself and the multitudes and God put the past under the Blood of Christ. So should they, if Beth’s past hurts are truly not let go of as she has preached, she needs to step back. To try to convince other Christians not to vote for Trump now or not to vote at all gives place to Hillary who has blatantly stated an unborn child is not a citizen and has no governmental rights even up to the day of birth. She has gone after Evangelicals and spewed warnings of reckoning’s to come for Christians. She will increase all gay homosexual rights over Christians. Not to mention the security of this Country. Beth needs to do more research before she judges someone for sins of the past. In Christ it is all forgiven. Yes he is a rough loud mouth and I dare say ADHD babe in Christ. It is our job as mature older Brothers and sisters to now intercess and pray for him. He has also chosen a team of Godly men to advise him.

    32. I am NOT voting for Trump…. I am voting for conservative Supreme Court Justices… I am voting to rebuild our military… I am voting for order and protection for my fellow citizens in the inner city… I am voting for accountability in our public servants… I am voting for fiscal control in our insolvent government… I am voting for an end to illegal immigration and for real jobs here… I am voting for term limits… I am voting for some type of end to this corrupt political system we have allowed…. And I am voting for the electric to be turned back on in that dark city on the hill…. That is why this flawed man and father, grandfather, employer, neighbor, worker, citizen is voting… this single vote will be the most important vote cast in my life and most likely the lives of the people I love and this Country that I so love… I am not throwing it away on some third party, and I am most certainly not leaving it on the shelf unused…. I AM VOTING TRUMP, and you know… right now as I drink my morning coffee, the house is still and quite, away from the noise of this election circus…. That small still voice assures me it is the right vote. Mathew 19:26

    33. DO WE WANT 4 MORE YEARS OF THIS APOSTATE BEHAVIOR? IT IS HARD TO DISCERN THE RIGHT VOTING PATH TO TAKE, BUT GOD’JS UDGMENT IS IMMINANT! IF THEY DONT WANT CHRIST IN THEIR PRAYERS WE WONT BE SPARED THE JUDGMENT IN AMERICA! MR KAINE IS A REAL WEASIL AMING CLINTON OBAMA DEMONCRATS! HE FORBIDED HIS OWN VA STATE POLICE CHAPLAINS FROM USING THE NAME OF CHRIST IN THEIR PRAYERS! BIRDS OF A FEATHER FLOCK TOGETHER! MR TRUMP WILL DO ALRIGHT UNTIL JESUS RETURNS! HILLARY IS ANOTHER QUEEN JEZEBEL! THIS NATION IS ABOUT READY TO TO GO TO THE DOGS! WE’D BETTER GET CLOSE TO JESUS AND IN THE MEANTIME VOTE LIKE YOUR LIFE LIBERTY AND THE PERSUIT OF HAPPINESS DEPENDS ON IT , VOTE FOR DONALD TRUMP! JESUS IS GRIEVED FOR THIS NATION! FEMA CAMPS UN HUMVEES, SOROS VOTING MACHINES AND DEMONCRATS ON THE PROWL FROM HELL ITSELF! TRUMP OR A THIRD WORLD ISLAMIC STATE OF CHAOS IN THE LATE GREAT USA!!! THE CHOICE IS CLEAR! JUDGMENT IS INEVITABLE! MAY GOD BLESS AMERICA THE NEXT 4 YEARS! PRAY PRAY PRAY, IN JESUS’S NAME TO ALMIGHTY JEHOVAH GOD THE TRUE AND ONLY FATHER!

    34. To not support Trump or call out the problems and contradictions to the Christian faith does not make someone a Hilary supporter. To deflect the conversation from Trump to how bad Hilary is doesn’t lessons the negative aspects of Trump. It just shows your unable to defend them. She’s corrupt & evil, he us vulgar & immoral. Christians are called to abstain from every for or appearance of evil…..not choose the lessor of two

      1. The fact is, is that we had eight years of obama because 25 million or more Evangelic Voters did not vote!

        So, yes not voting *IS* a vote for killary…

        If you can’t stand the person then vote the platform.

        But, vote you must, anything else is dereliction of duty and puts you, I and all Christians in danger of receiving the judgment spoken of in Ezekiel 22:30-31

        I think Mario’s point about focusing on Trump and leaving killary off the table is disingenuous to the nth degree.

        Lastly, please delineate Trumps Criminal Behavior for the past few years?

        There will never be a perfect candidate until Jesus runs for office. And, He won’t need to run because He along is King of Kings and Lord of Lords…

        I urge you to prayerfully considet these tow posts:
        http://www.houseofmyrrh.org/LPC/Saturday 2016-10-01.mp3
        http://doncole.com/preachers-and-politics-no-subject-is-off-limits/

        compare how many points each candidate continues to adhere to from Proverbs 6:16-19

      2. AS I said in the article “-It makes no sense to deny you are helping Hillary if you don’t vote—or if you vote for a third candidate. It’s a two-person race. Trump is the underdog. He needs every vote he can get, and every vote he does not get, helps her. You can numb your conscience all you want but facts are facts…if you don’t vote for him, you are helping Hillary. The tired “don’t choose the lesser of two evils argument would mean never voting. Every candidate is a fallen being.
        I am not calling these people supporters of Hillary…I am saying they are helping her.

      3. I felt as you did until I heard the Testimony from Dr. Ben Carson who is a member our church. A man of high integrity. I have listened to Beth Moore , her testimony, she is a survivor of sexual abuse, and a lifestyle that followed before coming to Christ. Her testimony is one of forgiveness. Perhaps she and Max do not know that over a year ago, Donald Trump gave his life to Christ, that comes on good reliable authority of Dr. Ben Carson, Dr. Dobson and many others Pastors who have met with him. Yes He is a rough babe in Christ. But if God forgave Beth, Max, myself and the multitudes and God put the past under the Blood of Christ. So should they, if Beth’s past hurts are truly not let go of as she has preached, she needs to step back. To try to convince other Christians not to vote for Trump now or not to vote at all gives place to Hillary who has blatantly stated an unborn child is not a citizen and has no governmental rights even up to the day of birth. She has gone after Evangelicals and spewed warnings of reckoning’s to come for Christians. She will increase all gay homosexual rights over Christians. Not to mention the security of this Country. Beth needs to do more research before she judges someone for sins of the past. In Christ it is all forgiven. Yes he is a rough loud mouth and I dare say ADHD babe in Christ. It is our job as mature older Brothers and sisters to now intercess and pray for him. He has also chosen a team of Godly men to advise him.

    35. I will no longer support said Beth and Max by buying their books and studies. I will remind those I come in contact with of the stand they both took. I believe it does matter when they stand before God and It does make a difference what you stand for or against. Some of the very things I have read in their studies and books goes against what they are now doing. It could be called Hypocrisy!

    36. Thank you sir for your article. It has helped me (after much prayer,) to be
      voting for Mr. Trump.
      Now I will spread a bit of light on a couple of matters. For one I am a RAPE/ and MOLESTATION SURVIVOR. I still support Trump, because I have been able to learn to cope with what happened to me, and I have in my heart forgiven. I know a few people including family members who have had abortions and I know they have suffered and are suffering for what they did. But I as a Fundamental Born Again Washed in the Blood Baptist ((not westboro dingbats)who is SAVED AND GOING TO HEAVEN, I forgive. I am also the mother of a gay son who has a black boyfriend. I don’t judge. I support Trump. Not based on what the playboy models or Hollywood or anyone else says. I support Trump because I prayed and I researched and I LISTENED, and heard Mr. Trumpwhen he told America he was sorry for things he said and did in the past. I also LISTENED… and heard no such thing come from Mrs. Clinton, period on emails, Benghazi, Murder ( as in Vince foster for one), Lies or Murder (abortion) Mrs. Clinton and anyone else who condones abortion in any way has the blood of the innocent upon their shoulder’s. But I forgive them. I just will not vote for them, I WILL VOTE AGAINST THEM. What I know without a doubt is that JESUS IS COMING SOON. God has his timing which is perfect. One day we will ALL stand before God.

      1. Katherine I enjoyed your testimony, and the fact you did not let what you heard make up you mind, but educated, watched and observed.

        I was in the same position but a few things happened. Yes while the video released of Donald Trump’s past sins put out by Clinton was shocking It is Something that happened more than 11 years ago. And why his mannerisms up to this last spring showed no evidence I have seen more.

        Since that time when this man was living a worldly life, per Dr. Ben Carson (whose life is one of the highest of integrity has defended. Donald all the way ) Dr. Carson is a member of our church. He has defended Mr. Trumps sincerity due to his lengthy times spent with him.

        Donald because of what he calls one genuine action that took place this last year in March. That was a genuine committed decision Donald J. Trump made for Christ. Donald’s words were, I did not know what being a Christian truly meant. He has stated that he called himself a Christian because he believed in God, he stated anybody can say their a Christian, but since he made this salvation commitment he knows he did not know what salvation was.

        He said ” He still does not know a lot of God’s principles but he has done something to learn them. He has picked a group of Godly Councilors. Did you know he goes into campaigns now with prayer coverings. Yes he is rough, but much is softening as he grows.

        All have sinned and come short of the Glory of God, including those who hold themselves way up high in Christianity. Donald is a new Babe in Christ and yes our past sins will find us out as well as present. Donald’s past life satan will continue to always bring up. Whether Donald wins or not I pray for him and his new walk. That God will take him deeper daily into the perfection that through his own decision to repent, he will also have the love and patience for others as he grows in Christ.

        Christ has called us all to pray for our leaders I pray that everyone who calls themselves, sons and daughters of the Living God will intercede for Donald Trump, not just for the positions of the things of the world but for Gods Perfect will in his life., Regardless of what happens in the elections, Donald Trump who is influential, intelligent and can use all of that when totally led by the Holy Spirit, for the advancement of the Kingdom of God, for the betterment of mankind in making a difference. Perhaps even some of the negative responses here is because many do not know that per Dr. Ben Carson (who is by the way a man of integrity who stands behind Donald after his decision for Christ.) Perhaps you did not see where Donald on national television said regarding his past remarks, “I want to apologize for my past way of thinking and things I have said, I am ashamed of them.”

        How many of us have let carnal things be in our mouth before Christ who have not even apologized. . I have voted all my adult life, and this was going to be the first I did not. But when I heard this testimony of Donald’s I shortly after was reading where Christ had not to good things to say to the Pharisee’s (religions men) regarding who they held to a standard that they themselves did not keep. I will not be a Pharisee.

        This is maybe one of the most humbling things in Donald’s life, and we have to be totally humbled before God can use us. For those who study biblical prophecy along with church history you should know that God has given us everything we need to be prepared for (“The time of Trouble as the World has never seen before”).

        Daniel 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book Matthew 24:21 for then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
        Think about these scriptures, with all that has gone on in this world from Creation till now, think about all the horrible wars, the World War II, millions of sacrificed unborn. How can it be worse? God’s word says it will. If Hillary gets in it will happen faster and more babies murdered, and children will die quicker. Religious freedom to work for the kingdom in these last days going to the lost. Terrorism like we never thought possible,

        (While the sooner the better for me, I still know there are many to be evangelized).
        More homosexuality will gain precedence, more Christian persecution a more rapid rate. God’s prophetic word tells us it is going to happen either way, we have to decide to we keep seeking, intercession and making choices accordingly, so that at least more will be able to come to Christ, and we seek holiness both in our lives and pray for those new babes in Christ.

        I would rather vote for a new babe in Christ who sees the sanctity of the unborn so deeply now since he has made this decision for Christ than someone who has gone on national television and agrees killing inborn children right up to hours before delivery is the law. The Netherlands finally put into law a couple weeks ago it is law now to kill live babies, babies born live through natural delivery. (Look it up yourself) 650 babies euthanized this year.
        If Hillary gets in it won’t take long here. )

    37. Thank you Mr Murillo for being obedient and speaking up for the many Christians who feel in their hearts that a vote for Hillary or a non-vote for Mr. Trump is equal with slapping our savior, Jesus, across the face. I believe The Lord helped you as you covered each point so perfectly. Your points are both delivered gently and honestly. I first saw you near the beginning of your ministry at a revival that went for weeks in Irving, Texas. I remember how hard you found it to deliver hard truths to the people of the church. I had only begun my walk into being used by the Lord in those days and wondered at you ducking behind the pulpit and saying something like “you are not going to stone me are you”. I have walked a few miles myself now and understand how hard it is to speak truth with a heart that means to harm no one. I have thought of you over the years, and here you are still brave enough to obey God in the hard times and deliver truth to those who may become angry with you. The good news is that God has a way of dealing with each of His children and in the end we see His point of view. Thank you again. May the Lord let all of His servants have their eyes open so they can be encouraged and not deceived. Let us all see like the prophet’s servant when he looked over the wall of Jerusalem where the enemy encircled the city and at the prophet’s request saw God’s angels ready to bring the victory. I pray others will find out about Hillary speaking to Elenor Roosevelt at seances in the White House and about her “spiritual” guides. God bless you and all who work with you, give you strength, peace, and wisdom.

    38. I know God is sovereign over all and I’m trusting in his faithfulness! But that does not negate my responsibility to be courageous and sensible in standing for Trump in this election! God help us if our country continues it’s decline in morality, fiscal irresponsibility, lack of patriotism, confused values and relinquishing our constitutional rights. Praying for a miracle of godly proportions!!!!

    39. They are both public servants of Christ and have the responsibility to bring people together, not divide. The platforms entrusted to them are only of value when they deliver by the Holy Spirit. God covers His own words, not man’s opinions.

    40. We can all agree that these are some of the worst possible people to lead the country. Out of 350+ million Americans, these two are the candidates that the political parties bring forth as their choices? Neither Trump nor Clinton will fix what ails, and in the end politics will not save us.

      It is another reminder that the Eternal Kingdom of the Messiah is not of this world, and as much as we would like to make this world better, it is sin that has polluted and broken creation.

      I voted (and I feel like I need to shower), but I do not support either candidate. One is just the lesser of the two evils.

    41. Mario,
      YES, so much of what you’ve said in your blog articles is WELL said…as Mr. Danny Davis commented.
      And that’s really sad in a way – because people like Beth Moore and Max Lucado are actually saying the same horrific thing that Hillary Clinton said about possibly millions of TRUE Christian Americans, when calling us who did vote for Mr. Trump and Pence, “DEPLORABLE’S” and “IRRECONCILABLE’S” and apparently Beth and Max agree?! WOW! I had no idea that they drank the liberal leftist ideology Kool-Aid too.

    42. I was devastated when Max came out so strongly against Trump. Where is grace? The Bible is full of sinful men God used for His purposes. I think some of these people who have big platforms ought to weigh carefully setting themselves up as judge and jury. Who among us wants our past sins broadcast, and in the case of Trump, all I heard before his run for president was all of the good he had done to help people. Now the run for president has suddenly made him a bad person? I don’t think so. He has had to refute lie after lie and the mainstream media won’t cover anything good about him. This man loves America and can see the destruction that is going on. He could have stayed in his status quo life and been spared the humiliation he has endured. Not to mention the time and money he has invested. The alternative is frightening!
      I have many of Max’s books but doubt I will buy anymore. As far as Beth, I wrote her off a long time ago after doing several of her studies. Wish our church would stop with her studies altogether. We complain about Hollywood and the platform that they have, but Christians in power also have a platform and I wonder if they seek God’s will before they spout off. I’m thankful that God is in control and I pray for His protection over America. I don’t think we have any idea what may be coming.

  1. I am voting for #PresidentTrump !!!
    My hands are clean, I won’t have innocent blood on me. My Vote has been cast, I pray you all stand up & Fight for the right person to lead us. In all His humble weakness, Trump is the right man for the task ahead of us all. I choose the humble weakness in man admitting / apologizing and confessing his sins Vs. The open Corrupt wickedness of a jezebel Spirit to lead me & The future of this Country.
    I can only pray you do as well!
    I believe it’s time for a New Sound, Do you hear & Want it?
    From (The White House) to (The Court House) to (The Church House) like my wife #ProphetGinaGuyWarren has been saying, Change will come from the Top & Move it’s way down through those Three house depending on the outcome of this election.
    It’s in the hands of the people of God now to make the right choice who they vote for. It’s obvious The signs & Wonders are right in front of us. Time to Wake up & Take action America, Do you really hear from the Lord? Will you make the right choice? The future & Our fate of this great country is up to you. As for me & My house, I serve the Lord & I say!
    #SoundTheTrumpPence
    #PastorBrianWarren
    #MrUnbreakable
    #GinaGuyWarren
    #TheFaceBookPastors
    #WarriorsForJesus
    #TheNavySealsOfTheChurch
    #TruthNLoveMinistryInternational
    http://www.TNLMI.org

    1. Sorry, Pastor, the future of our country is not in our hands. It is in God’s hands. God sets up and tears down rulers. Change will not come from Donald Trump. Change will not come from Hillary Clinton. Change will come only from God. You need to get off of your flawed political high-horse and start preaching the Gospel and only the Gospel. Forget politics.

      1. Baloney. God helps those who first make an effort to help themselves… By NOT electing amoral supporters of late term abortion, taking illicit donations from enemies in exchange for compromising our country, who flaunts the security of the nation regarding security of protected I formation, and who calls the loss of four Americans in Benghazi “a bump in the road.” No, Sir. YOU need to wake up and smell the coffee.

      2. To all who hold to the following notions:

        1. We should never be political.
        2. Our works don’t matter because God will do what He wants in picking our leader.

        Please realize that you are wasting your breath trying to espouse those ideas here.
        Here is our stance as a ministry: Read these three examples from scripture and then our comment.

        Ezekiel 22: 30 So I sought for a man among them who would make a wall, and stand in the gap before Me on behalf of the land, that I should not destroy it; but I found no one. 31 Therefore I have poured out My indignation on them; I have consumed them with the fire of My wrath; and I have recompensed their deeds on their own heads,” says the Lord God.

        2 Chronicles 7:14 if My people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land.

        Acts 16: 36 So the keeper of the prison reported these words to Paul, saying, “The magistrates have sent to let you go. Now therefore depart, and go in peace.” 37 But Paul said to them, “They have beaten us openly, uncondemned Romans, and have thrown us into prison. And now do they put us out secretly? No indeed! Let them come themselves and get us out.”

        1. The first example of scripture clearly shows God seeks people to stand in the gap and finding none He brings judgement.

        2. The second example says “If my People.” Change comes from God’s people who pray and repent.

        3. In the third cited verses we see Paul using his civil rights to force civic leaders to do their duty.

        It is the mistaken belief that we should never be political and a false application of God’s sovereignty that made the church passive when it should have acted…first by repentance, prayer and then speaking out against immoral leadership.

        MARIO MURILLO MINISTRIES

      3. So, you do not believe in forgiveness, grace, and mercy? I surely do for I was the worst of sinners. My Bible instructs me what to do in a situation such as this. Wanna borrow my Bible with instructions? My prayer is for God to richly Bless you.

      4. Sorry, Tim Way, the future of our Country IS in our hands. That’s why God gave us discernment and made us superior animals. That’s why He didn’t stop Adam to eat the fruit and let him to lose eternity. We are not robots….
        “This day I call the heavens and the earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live….”
        We are liberty to choose and will live based on our choice!

      5. It is Gods doing read Isaiah 45. God will use secular people, rulers to accomplish His plan. Pastors are Christians first and foremost, and have the right to speak out. The reasons our country is in the state it is , is because we Christians abdicated our rightful positions in the world. Our churches taught us we are not of the world, so instead of being the salt and the light, we stayed in our little “Christian only” boxes. Who filled the void we left? Satan and his minions. If my history is correct, pastors in the pulpits pushed our country’s Revolution. Please, Tim, spit that venom meant for this Pastor out of your mouth, and thank God for him.

      6. Mr. Tim, You are right and you are wrong. The future of our country is in God’s hands, but God has always used people (His and sometimes not His people) to do His Work in the earth. God can use a man to save a nation, He did it many times in the Old Testament and He has used man to save nations since Jesus died for all our sins. Please read all of Ezekiel 22, but I am copying vs. 29-30 here: “29 The people of the land have used oppressions, committed robbery, and mistreated the poor and needy; and they wrongfully oppress the stranger. 30 So I sought for a man among them who would make a wall, and stand in the gap before Me on behalf of the land, that I should not destroy it; but I found no one.” I believe that God has found such a man in Donald Trump, and I beleive that he can have a great influence in turning our nation somewhat back to what it was before Obama became the occupant of the White House. Trump is a baby Christian, and he needs our prayers and our support more than any candidate that has ever run for this office. And I would suggest to you that you “humble yourself” before the Lord Jesus Christ, Pride goes before a fall. I hear a lot of self-righteous pride in your reply above.

      7. You are wasting your time Tim. You are talking to people that actually think there is a good choice between the two most morally bankrupt candidates in my lifetime. Just like you can’t convince a Hillary supporter that she’s awful, you can’t convince a Trump supporter either. So what if you can look at BOTH of their lives and see nothing but destruction.

      8. Tim you are right to say the future of our country is in god’s hands BUT he does work thru his people – the church and others. God as well set up three institutions for the benefit of man and expects us to be active in them. Do you propose to let the humanist make the laws and then behave them in Romans 13 manner? Stop hiding your talents under your prayer pillow brother Tim, get up on your feet and start plowing with the rest of us.

      9. You are so wrong, Tim. We are supposed to to preach truth from the pulpit, especially when babies are being sacrificed to Molech. Proverbs 24:11-12. Proverbs 31:8. We are held accountable, if we don’t speak in our churches and we need fearless pastors to preach truth. God uses people to bring change. He doesn’t just pour it out supernaturally. He used David and others to bring political change to Israel. He used Moses and gave Him the Law. Peter and John stood up to the religious leaders and went to prison for their preaching Jesus. We won’t “forget politics,” because there are evil laws in place against Christians and if pastor’s remain silent, they are co-joiners with the enemy. We are to “contend earnestly for the faith,” and it includes who and what we vote for and against.

      10. Tim Way are you serious? you think as Christians we are suppose to sit quietly by and let none christians choose our leaders? One of the greatest things our fore fathers did was give us the right to vote, and they did found this country on God.

      11. God will use Donald Trump to bring change. We are the hands and feet of Jesus. I love this article and agree with this pastor! I also stand firm with Donald Trump!!!

      12. God uses men to bring about change. We can only hope and pray that what we do see in Trump is God’s will for our country. We can show our support for God by voting against pure evil, which we see in Hillary. I believe that the reason for all the attacks on Trump is because Satan does not want God’s will to be shown. I agree with the writer. If you are going to attack Trump, at least show the pure evil that Hillary brings.

      13. Tim Way, it appears that you need to do some re-thinking about what you have said here.
        God has allowed Obama to be in the WH and ruin our beloved country. The Bible tells us that there is no ruler or government in place that is not there through God’s divine will.
        So, YES, the future of our country IS in our hands. God has allowed these two representatives be put before us and it’s our duty to put the one who will adhere to what God wants for us Americans in place to do so with HIS help. Only one of these two will even consider that. The other one has already said that Christians MUST deny their faith and follow her decrees and she has gone after the Catholics in the same way.
        It IS true that God is in total control of everything in this world. But, we, as Christians, have a duty to God to follow his leading and guidance as we live here and do our best (with HIS help) to lead others to HIM.

      14. Your attitude is why we have the problems we have in America and why 54 million Christians stayed home in 2008 and 2012 and gave us 8 years of Obama, God is in control but God works through people, so get out and do your job, vote – love you Bro but you are wrong – dead wrong Mario is a shepherd leading his sheep and I honor him for that, at least one voice crying in the wilderness while most Pastors and Mega Church leaders remain silent

      15. Tim, what you just posted was naive. What?? Is God going to come down and vote for us? He has given us the privilege to vote between two platforms that are clearly opposite of one another. You are suggesting we don’t even get involved. That is what has been wrong with this country. ..Christians who feel that they need to be silent because God will do it all for them. You owe this pastor an apology. .. he is not standing by and handing our nation over to the worst, godless, corrupt woman to ever run for president.

      16. Tim, God set up the government. It is up to us to partake in the privilege of voting for whomever we want to run our government. You Tim have a privilege to vote in our country and by not using that privilege you affect everyone in our country. We are not voting for a preacher in a church. Go vote for Trump and it will cancel a vote for Hillary. Hillary is Godless, Trump is a new believer, a baby Christian. Pray for his guidance from God. The country needs your vote.

      17. When I left my reply to Pastor Warren, I didn’t know I would start such a string of replies. First, Pastor Warren, I meant no disrespect with my reply, and apologize that the last sentence was too strongly worded. Second, I have no problem with Christians and pastors having political opinions. Third, in no way was I implying that Christians should not vote, and vote informed and intelligently. I think that we need more Christians running for office! We need more Christians involved in the process. But here is my problem with Pastor Warren’s post: When we begin to tell our congregations specifically who to vote for, or when we begin to make our churches into GOP headquarters, we are practically putting a sign on the church door that says, “Democrats and other sinners not welcome.” You are virtually closing out and turning off half or more of your community. Yes, the truth should be preached from the pulpit – the truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. If you preach the Gospel and get the hearts of the people turned to God, they will make the wise choice in the voting booth. But if you preach politics you will turn off and turn away the very people who most need to hear the Gospel. Jesus never talked about politics. I am concerned by what I see from pastors and other religious leaders that they have replaced their trust in Jesus with trust in a fallible man. Donald Trump will not save this country. Hillary Clinton will not save this country. Only Jesus Christ can save this country. So get out and vote your conscience, but don’t beat on those who vote differently than you. Love them. Accept them. Share the Gospel with them. And, for the sake of the sake of the Gospel of Christ, support and pray for whoever becomes our next president.

      18. We are the eyes, ears, mouth, hands and feet of God here on earth. He wants us to protect and defend those who are unable to do this for themselves. We are taught to LIVE the gospel through our good works, to teach His will to others and not stand by silently, while He is being persecuted. May we all become like Paul when ‘his eyes were opened’.
        Lord, please heal this land.

      19. I can understand, but at the same time, with the government now forbidding things like prayer in school, bringing in religious extremists who despise Christians and will try to kill them, , etc, how does any pastor stand silent? How? The future of our country is in God’s hands, and perhaps through those who believe in him and his son.

      20. Amen. America needs to stop looking to a political leader to fix everything and look to God. We are cisterns on Heaven first not of the earth. They will know us by our love and our holiness because it is Christ in us.

      21. I wonder if you’d say the same thing to Beth Moore and Max Lucado? Sounds like a typical leftist who wants to silence Christians from entering the arena, like we somehow don’t qualify to be a part of the dialogue since we are Christians. Great response by the author of the article to this off base comment. I agree 100%!!

      22. Ultimately everything IS in God’s hands but He has given us responsibility to govern it and be watchmen. God has always required His people to act responsibly according to His Word. The Promised Land (though already delivered into the Hebrews’ hands from God’s perspective) required the Hebrews to go in and fight for it. We Christians in America are to stand up and defend right and wrong and protect the lives of the innocent unborn as well as the morality for our children. To not stand is to sit by and allowing injustice to spread. THAT is WRONG. “All that needs to be done for evil to win is for good men to do nothing!” We will give an account for the opportunities we missed when we could have acted.

      23. Yes, it’s in God’s hands. And God uses people to accomplish his work! He is being used by God and he can use Trump too!

      24. Kara, actually you are about as wrong as you can be. You said: “I wonder if you’d say the same thing to Beth Moore and Max Lucado? Sounds like a typical leftist who wants to silence Christians from entering the arena.” First, I would say EXACTLY the same thing to Max Lucado and Beth Moore. I think they are hurting their ministry coming out with their anti-Trump messages, as much as those who are trumpeting pro-Trump messages are hurting their ministries. Second, you accuse me of being a liberal. How dare you judge me when you know absolutely nothing about me. I am not a liberal. I have always been a conservative and always will be. I have frequently, but not always, voted a straight Republican ticket. However, being a conservative does not mean I will “toe the line” and get all excited about whatever the Republicans do or say. Nor does it mean I agree with turning churches and pulpits into Republican strongholds. The purpose of the church is to preach the Gospel of Jesus, not the Gospel of Donald Trump.

      25. My response to you and every Christian out there is very simple… PRAY TO GOD FOR WHAT CHOICE TO MAKE!!!! Prayer works, I have a journal to prove it!!! I have prayed since the very beginning and God’s answer to me has always been the same. I don’t question God, I obey!!! This is how Christians should be dealing with it. But, some Christians seem so confused about what to do and therefore do not want to vote. Now is not the time to sit this election out!!! I have a very close relationship with Jesus Christ… he is my constant companion and goes everywhere with me!!! When I go to the voting booth on Monday, Jesus will be there with me!!! And I am praying for all Christians out there too!!!

      26. Hi Tim, I agree with what you wrote about keeping the Gospel central, and that being the focus. If there is one thing we see from politics it’s that it raises more division and fear in world that is already full of it. If Hillary gets in, the Gospel will continue to go forth and the Kingdom of God will continue to advance, even if she did put laws to try and stop it. I don’t see why we have to condemn other Christians for how they vote. That is between them and the Lord, and if they make it public and we disagree, we should remember it does not affect their salvation. If someone with good conscience before the Lord cannot vote for Donald Trump and goes for a third party candidate, I do not see any Scriptural basis to believe that God will judge them for that. It is sad to me that people here what put that kind of pressure and condemnation on someone.

      27. You’re wrong! God expects us to act! He has given us free will and the moral conscience and instructions to use it accordingly!! What is bound on Earth shall be bound in Heaven, and what is loosed on Earth shall be loosed in Heaven. Our prayers and our actions have consequences. God has chosen to abrogate some of his power to us. This is obvious!!

      28. This pastor has spoken the truth. Donald Trump has changed since he started his campaign. God is working in the heart of this man. We serve an awesome God and I truly in my heart know God is in the campaign because the bible says God knows all and if His people be still they will hear His small still voice. I am voting on Trump!
        Hilliary Clinton is a mean hateful person and to think anyone with compassion for life would not give her any thought. Not a good choice

      29. Wow, Tim. I wonder how some of our Christian brothers and sisters in persecution in foreign lands would feel about that comment. Are you really ready to give up the freedoms and protections we have in this country so easily? Get into a cage (or watch your children)that’s set on fire because you are a Christian in a land where the government either condones it or is powerless to protect you? It would be arrogant to assume that just because we are Americans that our country won’t fall like Babylon. We aren’t powerless pawns in a cosmic chess game, but His hands and feet…and we can can use our voices and actions to protect our nation and help others if we don’t fall prey ourselves. I’m sure there are plenty of openings vacated regularly for those who desire to stay completely out of politics and preach the Gospel and only the Gospel – just travel East where Christians have no choice but to stay out of politics.

      30. Tim, God gave us dominion over the earth and free will. If you stand down from making a godly choice you give the devil room to take it.

        God gave humans the opportunity to participate in creation and all that is in it. To be passive and not vote against Hilary is not Biblical.

      31. Changes will come thru people with God’s help…He gave us authority!!!!!!! Don’t you read the
        Bible… Don’t cop out because your a good Democrat…..good political parties are a thing of the
        Past.. I could sleep if I voted for some Abortion Loving …Election rigging ..bunch of crooks like the
        Clintons

      32. God is always in control, this is true. However, we have a part in the direction of practical everything. Whether that means marriage, babies, work, bills, and yes even voting for a leader for this country. To stay silent would be an awful thing to do. If you see a woman being raped, or a child being beaten, do you just keep waking and say that’s in God’s hands? God’s uses each and every one of us. He puts us in the perfect place at the perfect time to see HIS plan come into play. He allows certain things that we may question, but have no doubt they all part their role perfectly.
        As my dear grandmother once told me, God gave you a mouth, use it to see HIS will be done.
        I think every Christian should be crying out against the wrongs that Hillary Clinton is all about.
        To not vote or abstain from voting because neither candidate is what you like, is ridiculous!
        In my opinion, you vote for what they stand for our against, not the individual themselves.
        I personally have never liked Donald Trump as a person. But he is against abortion, and he is for secure borders, he is for our constitution and protecting our rights. Our freedoms! So he is getting my vote.
        This is why every Christian should be voting against Hillary Clinton and for Donald Trump. We have but two choices, because not voting or voting for the third party is like giving Hillary your vote. Simple as that.
        God expects us to stand up for His word and by voting for a president, that’s exactly what we are doing!

      33. Tim….I have one honest and sincere question. Have you ever in your lifetime voted in a Presidential election?

      34. when you get up in the morning you have choices to make for that particular day those choices have conquences let’s say you choose not to go to work so that consequence most likely would be not to get paid. Now you could say I’ll stay home bc the future of today is in Gods hands but the reality is you choose not to go to work. Not going to the poll or not voting trump is your choice, if enough Christians make the same decision you do the future was in our hands and we let it go. This election is about Christians taking a stand and saying no more liberal Supreme Court justices. We have no choice but to vote trump.

      35. TIM, THE WORD SAYS TO BE SALT AND LIGHT. NO WAY TO DO THAT IF YOU DO NOT GET INVOLVED, WHAT DO YOU THINK OUR COUNTRY WOULD BE IF MEN DIDN’T GET INVOLVED.WE ARE TO BE INVOLVED WE ARE THE HANDS AND FEET OF JESUS. IN ORDER FOR EVIL TO PREVAIL IS A GOOD MAN TO DO NOTHING

      36. Yes but God does call us to call out sin as well…..And If you would look at scripture you would see that God brought the Jews into captivity when they started to allow the practice of child sacrifice which is exactly what abortion is. (Most abortions are on the alter of convenience) and God will judge our nation for that. That comes straight from the old testament so their is your preaching for the day. BTW if you are wanting it from the new testament, “murderers, adultery, fornication shall not enter the kingdom of heaven.” WE are called to call people into repentance. When the adulterous women was brought to Jesus he didn’t say it ok go on can continue sinning….no, He said, “go and sin no more.” So it is our job to speak out about injustice and sin. Yes Jesus lift a man up and takes a man down, but we are called to bring light to the world and that light expose sin and injustice. The Gospel exposes the sin and injustice, Jesus was the answer to that sin, but we must repent and walk out of that sin. So there is you Gospel preaching for the day.

      37. It is easy to say that the future of our country is not in our hands but God’s. That statement sounds Oh so spiritual, but in fact it is often an excuse not to obey the Lord. The truth is we have a choice that will effect our nation for years. Israel had choices too….and their choice effected the future. God uses people….as an American Christian you must ask yourself if you are listening to the voice of God or are you saying what will be will be. God is not going to magically change the vote to the person that would be best for the job…he depends upon Christians. If the wrong person gets into office God is still on the throne….but we can’t blame the consequences as God’s will…those consequences instead would be a direct result of disobedience. Read your Bible, God was very involved in politics.

      38. I have listened to Beth Moore , her testimony, she is a survivor of sexual abuse, and a lifestyle that followed before coming to Christ. Her testimony is one of forgiveness. Perhaps she and Max do not know that over a year ago, Donald Trump gave his life to Christ, that comes on good reliable authority of Dr. Ben Carson, Dr. Dobson and many others Pastors who have met with him. Yes He is a rough babe in Christ. But if God forgave Beth, Max, myself and the multitudes and God put the past under the Blood of Christ. So should they, if Beth’s past hurts are truly not let go of as she has preached, she needs to step back. To try to convince other Christians not to vote for Trump now or not to vote at all gives place to Hillary who has blatantly stated an unborn child is not a citizen and has no governmental rights even up to the day of birth. She has gone after Evangelicals and spewed warnings of reckoning’s to come for Christians. She will increase all gay homosexual rights over Christians. Not to mention the security of this Country. Beth needs to do more research before she judges someone for sins of the past. In Christ it is all forgiven. Yes he is a rough loud mouth and I dare say ADHD babe in Christ. It is our job as mature older Brothers and sisters to now intercess and pray for him. He has also chosen a team of Godly men to advise him. I refuse to be a Pharisee and do my part. Doctor Ben Carson is a member of our church, a man of the highest of integrity. It is his testimony on Donald that got me down from my high horse. I cannot be forgiven unless I forgive. Donald did apologize on national tv. He is rough , but so was many Christ has saved.

      39. I was in the same position in my thinking so I completely do understand Tim Ways, but a few things happened. Yes while the video released of Donald Trump’s past sins put out by Clinton was shocking It is Something that happened more than 11 years ago. And why his mannerisms up to this last spring showed no evidence I have seen more.
        Since that time when this man was living a worldly life, per Dr. Ben Carson (whose life is one of the highest of integrity has defended. Donald all the way ) Dr. Carson is a member of our church. He has defended Mr. Trumps sincerity due to his lengthy times spent with him.
        Donald because of what he calls one genuine action that took place this last year in March. That was a genuine committed decision Donald J. Trump made for Christ. Donald’s words were, I did not know what being a Christian truly meant. He has stated that he called himself a Christian because he believed in God, he stated anybody can say their a Christian, but since he made this salvation commitment he knows he did not know what salvation was.
        He said ” He still does not know a lot of God’s principles but he has done something to learn them. He has picked a group of Godly Councilors. Did you know he goes into campaigns now with prayer coverings. Yes he is rough, but much is softening as he grows.
        All have sinned and come short of the Glory of God, including those who hold themselves way up high in Christianity. Donald is a new Babe in Christ and yes our past sins will find us out as well as present. Donald’s past life satan will continue to always bring up. Whether Donald wins or not I pray for him and his new walk. That God will take him deeper daily into the perfection that through his own decision to repent, he will also have the love and patience for others as he grows in Christ.
        Christ has called us all to pray for our leaders I pray that everyone who calls themselves, sons and daughters of the Living God will intercede for Donald Trump, not just for the positions of the things of the world but for Gods Perfect will in his life., Regardless of what happens in the elections, Donald Trump who is influential, intelligent and can use all of that when totally led by the Holy Spirit, for the advancement of the Kingdom of God, for the betterment of mankind in making a difference. Perhaps even some of the negative responses here is because many do not know that per Dr. Ben Carson (who is by the way a man of integrity who stands behind Donald after his decision for Christ.) Perhaps you did not see where Donald on national television said regarding his past remarks, “I want to apologize for my past way of thinking and things I have said, I am ashamed of them.”
        How many of us have let carnal things be in our mouth before Christ who have not even apologized. . I have voted all my adult life, and this was going to be the first I did not. But when I heard this testimony of Donald’s I shortly after was reading where Christ had not to good things to say to the Pharisee’s (religions men) regarding who they held to a standard that they themselves did not keep. I will not be a Pharisee.
        This is maybe one of the most humbling things in Donald’s life, and we have to be totally humbled before God can use us. For those who study biblical prophecy along with church history you should know that God has given us everything we need to be prepared for (“The time of Trouble as the World has never seen before”).
        Daniel 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book Matthew 24:21 for then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
        Think about these scriptures, with all that has gone on in this world from Creation till now, think about all the horrible wars, the World War II, millions of sacrificed unborn. How can it be worse? God’s word says it will. If Hillary gets in it will happen faster and more babies murdered, and children will die quicker. Religious freedom to work for the kingdom in these last days going to the lost. Terrorism like we never thought possible,
        (While the sooner the better for me, I still know there are many to be evangelized).
        More homosexuality will gain precedence, more Christian persecution a more rapid rate. God’s prophetic word tells us it is going to happen either way, we have to decide to we keep seeking, intercession and making choices accordingly, so that at least more will be able to come to Christ, and we seek holiness both in our lives and pray for those new babes in Christ.
        I would rather vote for a new babe in Christ who sees the sanctity of the unborn so deeply now since he has made this decision for Christ than someone who has gone on national television and agrees killing inborn children right up to hours before delivery is the law. The Netherlands finally put into law a couple weeks ago it is law now to kill live babies, babies born live through natural delivery. (Look it up yourself) 650 babies euthanized this year.
        If Hillary gets in it won’t take long here. ) Not trying to persuade, just like you sharing what I have come too. And yes God and Christ is and always has been the only answer, but we have failed to do our part as the body of Christ.

  2. Thank you , my thoughts exactly..I love Beth Moore but I also sent her an email with the same thoughts…if you speak out on Trump how can you not speak out about Hillary.

    1. Well said, and I am so dishearted at some so called Christian, we serve one God one Lord, one Holy Spirit, and we can’t agree on any thing, that tell’s me that it’s not the Holy Spirit some are filled with, oh there filled all right.

  3. Excellent post Mario! I have been following you for years. Even met you at Darien Lake (Kingdom Bound)
    Blessings on you Brother.

  4. Thank you for this article. I was turned off by Beth & Max. I read both post and was really turned off by Beth. Left me thinking she needed to go back to the cross and seek God.

  5. I’m voting for TRUMP all the way. And I will not be intimidated by anyone who doesn’t like it. “The Clintons” to date.
    12 rapes
    46 mysterious deaths
    1 dead ambassador
    10 investigations
    1 impeachment
    2 disbarment
    30,000 deleted emails, and still not repented of there stupidity.
    Nothing to see here to keep voting for the Democratic ticket. I don’t care what the now, born again Donald J.Trump has done in his past. He’s forgiven and that’s enough for me. Behold all thing’s through Christ Jesus are made new and old things have passed away. Max and Beth need fresh fire. And a clear revelation of God’s own son and his finished work. Clearly the both of them have missed it.

    1. Once upon a time there was a Kingdom whose King was very very rich, he had everything he could possibly want, plus a beautiful family and beautiful wives….. He watched as the wife of one of his faithful men bathed on her rooftop, then he seduced her, committed adultery with her, impregnated her, then had her husband killed in the line of duty…fighting in his army….to cover his egregious sins. He was called…”The Apple of God’s eye… Then his son became King… He had 700 wives, and three hundred women that weren’t his wives, who seduced him into worshipping their foreign gods… He built God’s temple and was called the wisest and richest man on Earth…and wrote beautiful books in His Sriptures…Years later there was a very religious zealot who pursued God’s people and persecuted and had them killed because they were followers of Jesus…until this same Jesus knocked him off his high horse, blinded him and commissioned him to preach this same gospel that he had been having others killed for… Point being… God works through sinful, flawed, immoral people… Because He sees the potential in them…if people dont really change… Then why do we preach the Gospel… Pray for people, minister outside of abortion clinics, or on college campuses, or in jails… Or do anything else to change hearts and advance His Kingdom??

      1. I couldn’t agree more, Leslie. I wonder what the world would look like if we LOVED those we disagreed with. Instead of protesting abortion, what if we came along side a pregnant woman who felt alone and scared? Instead of holding signs that say “God hates fags!”, what if we got to know someone who lives a different lifestyle and loved them as our neighbor. When did it become “Christian” to hate? All I really know is God is in control and Jesus told us to love our neighbor. Somewhere along the way it has become “us vs. them” and it’s really sad.

    2. Thank you Steven, I am in TOTAL AGREEMENT WITH YOU ON ALL THAT YOU SAID!
      AMEN AND AMEN!!!! I am and a friend of mine are asking God to give America 4 more years by Donald Trump becoming our President. GOD CAN “MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!” VOTE TRUMP

    3. Why isn’t Hillary worthy of forgiveness too? Why are you so quick to give it to Trump but not Clinton? Can you not see how uneven-handed you are about this?

      1. If Hilary was ready to be used God could use her as he has used stranger options in the past. Hilary has a long well-recorded track record in public “service”. Hilary has not made any life changes that would indicate she is wanting forgiveness. She has not softened her position on abortion hours before birth. She has not publicly sought the advice of evangelical leaders in her agenda. In the wiki leaks emails she makes clear that the Catholic church needs to change and they seem to have a plan to infiltrate the church to make that happen. When do you ever see her in church, on her knees or talking about her faith in anything other than a basis for her theology of open borders, raising taxes despite the American working class in tatters, bringing in refugees that she knows we cannot adequately interview and monitor. She is unrepentant. How much listening do you ever see her doing? Everytime she is photographed she is talking and others are listening. It is time she listen.

      2. You are suppose to profess Jesus as your Lord and Savior . She has never done this in public nor has she shown any regret in the things she has done, let alone ask for forgiveness . She is still walking in the ways of the world and shouting out against God in all of her platforms .

    1. Great job Mia. Keep up the good work and may the Lord bless you and keep you. Please answer so I can have your address. I found you under Mario Murillo ministries. Thanks.

  6. Totally agree Mario. I just wish you had as big a platform as Max and Beth. I always share your posts on Facebook to spread to do what I can to help get them out.

  7. I am voting for Trump because my criteria for the president of United States is not a smooth talker. The Bible says that we will know men by their fruit.
    While I do not care for the comments Trump made 11 years ago, I feel like it would be ridiculous for me to take that as a personal offense. To be frank, men have been
    Condescending towards women for centuries. It doesn’t make it right, but on the other hand it is nothing new either.
    When looking at the fruits of Trump’s life, I see a successful businessman and a beloved father of intelligent, hard-working children.
    God has a history of using people who are not perfect to bring change to a nation. I believe our country is desperate for a change. To me, who better than someone who is not a career politician and really has nothing to gain for himself.
    There is a verse in The Message that says “when degenerates are in charge, crime runs wild.”
    Criminal activity is out of control in many cities and towns. So if I reverse that verse, that is because degenerates have been in charge.
    Obamacare is a joke. If you compare premiums to coverage and deductibles, policyholders are getting very little for their money. I don’t believe all Americans need access to health insurance. But I do believe if they all need access to health care. There is a difference.
    I support legal immigration. However, I am totally against illegal immigration. I challenge anyone who is an advocate of open borders to throw open the doors of their house, and let anyone in. Feed them, clothe them, educate them, provide healthcare for them, and so on. And in the meantime, if they steal from you or physically harm you or one of your children, oh well.
    Furthermore I believe Trump will bring a restoration of dignity to the people of this country in the form of jobs.
    I could go on and on. But the bottom line is that I believe Trump is the right man for the job of president of the United States at this time. As a deplorable woman, I am proud to cast my vote for him.

  8. Thank you, Brother for making things so clear for the Christian. It’s very much needed. I would like to speak to the Beth Moore ‘voice’ out there…
    Beth Moore has, I personally believe, spoken out against Trump because the video of him speaking in a perverted way, no doubt, (which he should not have, but is that not the way of the world? And was he then not of the world? That’s what happens when one doesn’t have Christ. Are we surprised?) must have triggered a deep, unhealed wound in her in regards to her past of being sexually abused by men. (If not truly healed, of course this could cause triggers!) And many women who have been abused and taken advantage of by the men in their lives, after hearing/seeing the video, have also allowed the (yes perverted and disgusting) words from Trump to affect them. It’s expected. Words like that takes them back. It’s undeniable and very sad. But where is the ‘forgiveness and the letting go of the past and ‘getting out of the pit’ and becoming a new creation; leaving the old behind’ message that Beth inspires all of us women with, now? It seems she is battling her own biblical message for her own life.

    The message I, and many other women got from her speaking out, is ‘Don’t let Donald off the hook because he represents every single male out there that has abused me and I want to lash out and hurt everything about him because of what was done to me!” That’s what it feels like to be truthful.

    But I challenged some of these women and I would also challenge Beth Moore with this question: ‘Why have Donald Trump’s words offended and affected you so much; to the point that you are willing to bypass all of the right and just and necessary things he would do for our country according to the Word (ex: Pro life; creating jobs, appointing men of God in the Supreme Court, fighting ISIS, lowering taxes and lifting the tax burden off of the American people, etc…etc…) and give the impression that you would vote for Hillary who is a liar and not to be trusted with our very own country that would be hers to destroy?
    This is not a Trump against Beth fight! This is the ELECTION OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE USA we are dealing with!!

    IF God has truly healed you of past abusive sexual wounds, then why allow Trump’s words to trigger such bitterness and hatred for him and let the whole world know about it? Trump’s past (perverted) words that he spoke do not have to affect you if you’ve been truly healed and set free by God. Maybe God is using Trump to expose the inner heart of man, in this case, many women and maybe even Beth Moore’s.

    I believe that Beth, along with many other women, are seeing narrowly because they have made this a personal issue. Their willingness to speak out against Trump’s ‘sins and perverted ways’ and not address Hillary’s criminal activities which could take our country completely out and into the hands of our enemies, is proof that much healing in these women’s lives need to take place.
    We cannot vote and elect a President based on our personal issues. We must have God’s eyes to see the plans and purposes He has for this country and I could bet Beth that God would certainly not agree to abort life at any stage of life– for starters.

  9. Thank you, Mario. You have expressed my sentiments exactly on this election. We are seeing once again what happened eight years ago when millions of Christians stayed home on voting day because they just couldn’t bear to vote for a Mormon. I pray to our Lord Jesus that the deception will be removed and Christians will wake up and understand that their “no vote” will gravely affect the future of their children and grandchildren. God looks at our heart…

  10. It’s not the time to give up.. It’s not over like the far left and bias media wants us to believe .. This is spiritual warfare.. Trumps fighting against pure evil! we have to stay on the battlefield with him and for him.! Gods cleaning house and he’s exposing sin .. God gave us A mighty warrior and his name is Mr Trump, he been fighting for All Anericans and our Christian rights .. Thanks for posting Mario. 🙏🙏🙏.

    1. THANK YOU BARBARA, God’s word says that judgment begins at the House of God and I believe that is exactly what is happening. He is exposing sin in His House, and we had all better get our hearts right before Him, and that certainly includes those in the public eye like Beth Moore, Max Lucado, etc. If their statements against Trump influence even one person to not vote for him or not vote at all, their blood will drip from their hands on judgment day. This is the most clear cut election: evil vs. good that we have ever had. CHRISTIANS PLEASE WAKE UP, YOU HAVE BEEN ASLEEP AND DECEIVED FOR FAR TOOOOOOO MANY YEARS!!! VOTE TRUMP

  11. I agree totally. The Christians who support Donald Trump know that our country is at stake. Hillary will destroy the Constitution and place the most liberal justices in the Supreme Court. Her stance on abortion is just murder. She herself is a Lesbian and has had many affairs. One came out in an interview with Yoko Ono (world news daily.com)many years ago. Larry Nichols a former Clinton insider was told by Bill Clinton himself that Hillary was involved in this sexual perversion. Hillary and Bill’s past has left many dead who have stood in their way to power. Donald Trump’s past is nothing compared to this. Millions of Christians failed to go out and vote for Romney and we got Obama again. Look at all the distruction he has caused in the last four years. Shame on you Max & Beth who seem to be willing to cast the first stone towards Donald Trump and ignore the crimes of the Clintons. What did Jesus call those self righteous people?

    1. It appears we shoot our own. I wonder what Christ would say about that??Only one can be trusted and it’s neither Trump nor Clinton no matter what they say.

      1. Christ said to be wise and not throw your pearls to swine. Christ confronted people who were misguided or stubbornly sinful. There is nothing wrong with discernment. Too much is at stake here. ONLY GOD can be trusted ultimately- not any human as he made us imperfect. So ask him if you hear from him who to vote for. I guarantee you, he is in this election as he does not sit back and nap.

  12. During the last debate, when Donald Trump was contending with Clinton over abortion…..it touched my heart so deeply at the end of that round, when he said, “Ripping a baby from the womb….it’s not right….”…..he sincerely sounded so broken over that issue. Thank You Lord that we have a candidate who hears Your heart.

    I have been incredibly discouraged by Christians who will not be voting this year and/or those who fail to see the big picture.

    Ok ‘Trump haters’……wait until Barack Obama is sworn in as a Supreme Court Justice…..if Hillary Clinton is voted in, that is her plan…..

    Mario I have followed your ministry for 25 years…..you are the real deal and haven’t sold out or compromised. God bless you richly through this season with Wisdom, strength and protection. Thank you for standing where few have the courage to….

    1. You that have not sinned , go on throw your stone! I am Voting for Donald Trump. I do not agree with somethings he has said and done. I can not bring myself to vote for a woman who support KILLING UNBORN BABIES and is a CRONIC LIAR ! I am a Christian woman and I do not care what Beth and Max say. I have a BRAIN AND I AM Going to use it! I do not need help with my decision. Beth and Max will stand before God for their deeds as I will.

    2. I so agree with you Evy Serpa! Thank you so much for your stand Mario. I pray that other Christian leaders would have your boldness and wisdom [and some have], but I think some would rather keep their position in secret because of “offending ” some of their followers with TRUTH! We should not have to be told WHO to vote for; if we believe the Bible, the wording of the political party platform will clearly tell us how we should vote

  13. I agree with you Pastor Marillo 100%—- my entire family is voting Trump
    As a Christian, there is no question — How can anyone support the murder
    Of the little ones — the scandals that have followed the Clintons for years, the corruption, etc. it’s too much!

  14. Beth Moore showed how out of touch she is with biblical values despite the fact that she writes then sells Bible study books which are sold as packages which are pretty pricey to churches . I’m so disappointed in her and in Max Lucado. They are both out of touch.

    1. Beth Moore and Max are both wrong, we have a God given responsibility to render unto Ceasar it’s not just your taxes it’s all civic duties including voting, I’m tired of hearing Beth using her old story of abuse and yet she refuses to say anything about Bill Clinton raping and molesting women and even 13 year old girls, and then says nothing, nothing about Hillary threatening the victims, if Beth is so traumatized by her abuse how can she not feel empathy for Bills victims and Hillary threatening them….. makes you wonder how traumatized Beth really is – wake up girl or hush up

  15. Mario
    Thank God you spoke out
    I can’t believe
    Beth Moore
    &
    Max’s
    Sure does show their thinking
    Won’t buy their books anymore

  16. These are words of a true prophet of the Lord ! Thank You Mario ! To the point, but reasoned. Biblical common sense. Im amazed.

  17. I am voting for Mr. Trump, he is
    A New Christian, Trump is Saved and his past does not matter. Eneryone has sinned and who will throw the first stone? Looks like Max and Beth have done that. Shame on them, Trump has Repented and is sorry about his past. His past does not matter now. He will help Christians while Hillry says …Christians should quit following Jesus. Please open your eyes. This Man Will Help Us!

  18. I love Donald Trump. I would never vote for someone who kills babies. NEVER Lets pray as Christians that he does win regardless of what any one says.

  19. If any Christian would terminate a baby even up to the last days of development, that is murder. If any Christian wants LGBT agenda to continue to destroy our Christian voices, God calls that an abomination. Hillary stands for both.
    To all Christians who read this, you will stand before God and give an account.
    We all need to vote. Please vote according to what is precious to the heart of God.

  20. I am so glad for a leader like Mario Murillo, with the courage to say what needs to be said at a time like this. So thankful. So… so… so thankful. Thank you, Jesus!!!

  21. And to aspire to live quietly, and to mind your own affairs, and to work with your hands, as we instructed you, so that you may walk properly before outsiders and be dependent on no one.

    Matthew 6:24

  22. Thank you Mario Murillo! I have heard you minister several years ago and I believe you speak with a heart of compassion. I feel what you have said is not attacking,but instead just as the word says”when we have an issue with a brother or sister in the Lord to go to them,apparently they have not responded to your plea and that is very sad,but I believe that we are in the last days and we are going to see more and more of this kind of response to matters involving Christians and we better know what God’s word is saying to the believer. I believe that the separating of Christians is starting to happen. God help us that we can be discerning in these days ahead for all this that is happening today is SPIRITUAL!!!!!! Again, thank you for speaking on this matter and may God bless you!!!!!

  23. This country is in the mess today because of leaders in the church being politically correct instead of biblical correctness. When Donald becomes president AND HE WILL GOD IS GOING TO DO A HOUSE CLEANING IN CHURCH LEADERSHIP AS WELL..The winds are beginning to blow🙏🙏

    1. You are right Mary Pastors and Mega Church leaders remain strangely silent, the shepherds do not lead the sheep to safe pastures – they keep on attending seminars, conferences etc on how to have a bigger church, have more money, and then give those members no direction at all – God holds the shepherd accountable for the sheep He has placed in their care, and if they don’t care He will remove them

  24. My wife and I have chosen to vote for Donald Trump! We have already lived through the first disastrous reign of the Clinton Team. We are not looking forward to having a repeat performance.

  25. Thank you for having the courage to publicly confront respected Christian leaders that are not seeing what is at stake if we let the liberal media have their way. These leaders have not held Hilliary to the same standard they have held Mr. Trump to who admits he was wrong and has apologized. It is important for people like you, Billy Graham, Franklin Graham, and Dr. James Dobson to name a few to let us know that their stand is as they have been so trustworthy to lead the Christian community in the past to moral clarity. I agree with you totally and thank you for sharing!

  26. I agree that it is wrong to support Hillary Clinton, the justices that she will appoint, and the policies that she stands for. However, there is another choice. I believe that voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil. There is a 3rd candidate who actually has a chance and, unless you are in a swing state that is a close race between Clinton and Trump, you could make a difference by voting for Evan McMullin. He will likely win Utah, and stands a good chance to win Arizona as well. If he takes just those two states, and Trump takes the states that are a close race between him and Clinton, then neither of them would get 270 electoral votes. What happens then? The House of Representatives (Republican majority, but being alienated more every day by Trump’s attacks) will decide between the three candidates. They will not vote for Clinton, but they just might vote in McMullin who has a very solid conservative platform… you know, the kind of platform Republicans used to run on. I strongly disagree that I am helping Hillary by voting for a third candidate. If I were casting a vote for Johnson or Stein, maybe. But McMullin is a viable candidate who makes this a three-person race. I agree Trump needs votes in the swing states, but a vote for Trump in Arizona or Utah will help her, not him. Facts are facts… and this election is poised to make history.

    1. If McMullin were a viable candidate, he would have been included in the debates; outside of Utah and possibly Arizona, haw many votes even his name? Not enough. The choices, whether we like it or not, are Trump and Clinton. Logically speaking, whether you strongly disagree or not, a conservative who votes for a candidate who cannot win the electoral college does, indeed, help Clinton.

      Not Voting or Voting Third Party

  27. A very good article, but one thing I did not see you address was the fact that those Christian voters that support Trump also remember what their lives were prior to being a Christian. God is a forgiving God when you come to Him in submission and repentance. Are we too “high and righteous” that we will judge someone else, and forget that Christ has forgiven us from our former sins? We sit back and talk about someone behind their back about their appearance but refuse to say out loud and reprove them for the deplorable actions that they do. Yes we are to be kind, but when attacked we have a right to point out what they are standing for in those attacks. Yet when they show that they have changed, just like Trump has done, we can forgive and accept them, even with their faults. I know I am not perfect, and I certainly am not voting for a “perfect” person, but I can forgive past faults just like God has forgiven me.

  28. I don’t care for Max at all….and I’m not really surprised at Beth Moore speaking out either. I have lost any respect I ever had for either one of them.

  29. I am very saddened to see Christian leaders saying who they are voting for and bashing the other. There are many people who admire and follow these Christian leaders and will vote for a certain candidate just because their favorite Christian leader is doing so. I grew up watching Billy Graham with my family on TV. In fact it was after one of his sermons, when I was in 8th grade, that I gave my life to Christ. I have such respect for the Graham family. And as I grew older, had children, I became very involved with BSF and also Beth Moore bible studies. I have attended and helped lead many of Beth’s studies and have attended her conferences filled with worship. I love and respect her and all she is doing to share God’s word. I also have read many of Max’s books and have shared them with others. I have great respect for him as well. I believe what each of these leaders and others should be doing is telling everyone to be on their knees praying and asking for God’s wisdom, God’s choice, God’s will to be done. Each of us should be seeking God and His opinion only. Only God knows the right person to lead our country. And even though both candidates are flawed- like all of us, God can change people. I still believe in miracles. Many times God uses the most unlikely to carry out His plan, so why do we think He won’t do that now? GOD IS THE ONLY ONE WHO SHOULD BE INFLUENCING OUR DECISIONS. And we must be in prayer to know what He wants us to do. I have never prayed so hard, so much, for so long for an election before. When I see Christian leaders at odds all I can think of is how Satan must be sitting back smiling at us. He loves nothing more than divisiveness, to see Christians divided, questioning each other. Instead of Christian leaders sharing who they are voting for I would much rather see our leaders sharing prayers. Only God knows the right person to lead our country. And only God knows who each individual should vote for. God has a plan for each of us, God has a plan for the next president, and God has a plan for our country. Whatever comes forth from this election I believe if we Christians stand strong, stand together, pray together, WE, the people of God can be the leaders or our country.

  30. I was so very disappointed in both of these but God reminded me that every human is fallible and I should never have expected Beth or Max to be otherwise.

    1. Me Too…I loved Max and his devotionals. This makes me think differently of him and Beth!! How can anyone JUST let Hillary be President because they vote for her OR for a third party!! They will have to live with themselves and Let God judge. They say God forgives….why not let them forgive Trump??!! God will forgive him for sure!!!

  31. Well said Mario. On accepting the nomination for the Republican Party he thanked Evangelical Christians for their support and further said although he does not deserve their support.
    One more question for the Max Lucado and Beth Moore’s of the world “WHERE WERE YOU IN 2012 WHEN MIT ROMNEY WAS THE NOMINEE A MORMAN?” Mormonism is a roque religion yet silence.

  32. “But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, have a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away!” 2 Peter 3:1-5
    Sure describes Trump to a t !

  33. God’s ways and thoughts are not like ours. He uses the weak and foolish things to confound the wise. He used Samson, a womanizer to judge and bring judgement on a nation. He used Nebuchadnezzar to bring a nation back to God. Good grief, God used a donkey to speak his truth! As believers we need to be cautious thinking that we know the way that God is going to work. Beth has said to let God out of the box. It saddens my heart that she doesn’t seem to see that Donald Trump may be God doing just that. Personally, if she can’t vote for Trump okay, but to use her influence to lead others to follow her makes me sad. Millions of Christians didn’t vote in the last election because Romney is Mormon, and look who we got?
    I prayerfully and confidently voted for Trump today!

  34. Amen, amen, amen. As a retired Christian author and freelancer for Today’s Christian Woman magazine (among others), I have come to the same conclusion as you. And when I shared your blog on FB, I was promptly verbally crucified and then defriended by one of the more notable Christian agents in the publishing business. (No worries, I have been retired long enough that he holds no power over me.) I had other agents issuing cautions to authors to not engage in political discussions on FB “lest readers be offended”. Frankly, THAT offended ME🙂. What has happened to Christians that they can remain so silent about HRC’s stance on abortion, knowing that if elected she will appoint Supreme Court Justices with her own extreme left wing leanings, effectively locking in Roe vs Wade for decades to come? Six million Jews were killed by Hitler and we called it a holocaust. FIFTY EIGHT MILLION American babies have been exterminated by abortionists since 1973 (that’s 3,000 PER DAY) and we call that a woman’s right to choose? My Christian brothers and sisters, what in the hell (pun deliberately intended) are YOU thinking if you don’t give your vote to the issues that Trump/Spence champion? And then there’s ALL the other issues your blog so succinctly encapsulated. Brethren, I beg of you, do NOT give your vote to the left by withholding your vote from the right.. I do NOT believe our God will turn a blind eye if we do.

  35. I am an evangelical and believe Trump is our answer for the future of America. I cannot believe how any Christian could even think about voting for Hillary. She will complete the devastation Obama has imposed on this nation. Thank you for your words of wisdom. #DonaldTrumpforpresident

  36. I love Beth Moore’s teaching. She is a great woman of God and has done far more for Christ then I have. However she is wrong about speaking out against Donald Trump. It would have been better if she was silent about this matter. I’m a very common sense thinker.

    1. If I was an helpless unborn baby who would I want to be president? I would choice Donald Trump. Hillary Clinton has already failed at this.

    2. If I was $19,000,000,000,000 in debt and two people offered to consult me but I had to choice one Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump? I would choice Donald Trump. Hillary Clinton has already failed at this. Yes I know people say Bill Clinton balanced the budget but he borrowed money from social security and who knows what else.

    3. If I was in the military and needed help asap. I only have two people to call Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton? I would choice Donald Trump. Hillary Clinton has already failed.

    4. If I had to go on a road trip with Donald Trump or Hillary Clintons husband Bill Clinton alone who would I feel the safest with as a woman? I would choice Donald Trump. Hillary Clinton helped enabled her husband.

    This is just a few things….

  37. I don’t KNOW Trump personally,but I do know this….I am a Christian. Would “I” pass the hot mic test 24/7?!! NO. I am being honest about that. I read up on candidates before deciding. Hillary,I’ve known. Before I jump on the “Trump is a pig towards women bandwagon,” I’ve read testimonials written in HONOR of him by women who’ve known him,who’ve worked for him,who’ve been around him in social gatherings. Testimonials as in praise for his treatment . There have been MANY times in the past where he’s done charitable things for people in need and didn’t want any recognition for them. I’ve read where James Dobson said he is a NEW Christian,where Dr. Ben Carson said,”I know this about Donald Trump,I know he’s praying every day!” All have sinned and come short of the glory of God,right? Heading up these elections the way Republicans before him have has put a Democrat in the White House. We canNOT allow the supreme court picks that Hillary would make. Plus,someone explain Hillary’s thinking on babies and toddlers? Let’s allow partial birth abortions (which is murdering a baby who would have been viable outside the womb) before they become an armed toddler?!!!!! That’s about how much sense that made! Notice I haven’t even mentioned all her criminal activity down through the years and even still! I’m voting Trump,and I’m voting EARLY!!!! God Bless America,God Bless and has already forgiven Donald Trump!!!❤

  38. Beautiful Mario!!! It’s the truth! Speak it out and don’t be ashamed! The church has been silent for too long. That’s why our country is the way it is. The church is also in such disunity! We are NOT called to be silent!

    1. This is the most important election that I can remember. I can’t believe for one moment that any Christian in this nation has been happy with the direction our nation has taken during the Obama presidency. The simple fact that we are reading Mario’s postings is proof that many of you feel the same way, but lets take religion out of the equation for a moment and look at what is being offered to us in this election. For the first time in my lifetime we have a candidate that is not being endorsed and is not beholden to either major political party. Both parties have forsaken the peoples will and are running this nation off the cliff while fattening their wallets and those of special interest groups. This is the first candidate in decades that actually supports the people. We may never have this opportunity to give the power back to the people again. Our freedom and liberty are what is at stake! God Bless America!

  39. Thank you Thank you Mr. Mario Murillo ..I don’t think I have every heard of you until now .. Believe me I will find out who you are and what you’re all about . I myself have read some things Max Lucado has said about Mr. Trump and my heart just sunk I couldn’t believe what I was reading. And you’re right he wasn’t saying anything about Clinton. It hurt my heart because I didn’t understand his thinking about Mr. Trump and the condition of our Country. Again thank you and Lord Bless you Sir!!

  40. Thank you for the courage to speak out and take this stand. How any Christian can vote for someone who believes in abortion is just beyond my imagination. Donald Trump is not a perfect man by any means, but God has used many imperfect men in the past to lead nations. We are so focused on the negativity that the media feeds us every day to really understand what the ramifications of what a Hillary Clinton win would mean for the whole world. We can’t see the whole picture. God sees the whole picture. We could vote for Trump and pray that He chooses godly people to be around him instead of bashing him for something that he did years ago and has apologized for. I am a born again Christian and I am casting my vote for Trump.

  41. Thank you for sharing this. It sums up my view exactly. I am voting Trump for my children and grandchildren. AND so that I can worship without fear of being sent to Jail. Think about this — Franklin Graham has been going to cities across America doing prayer meetings on Capital steps. Do you think this will be allowed if Hillary is elected?She wants the Catholic and Evangelicals to disappear. I am very disappointed in Max and Beth.

  42. I believe that Donald Trump has his work cut out for him what a mess he has to fix from the past, has ruin our country and they will keep on doing so If we allowed Hillary to take office. this my friends for the love for your country will be no more as we know it. so I beg of you my Brothers and Sisters hear the wakeup call to save your country Vote for Trump and give him a chance to make America great!!!! USA Save or Country from Hillarys deplorable Poison politics!!!!! our vote has already gone to TRUMP and keeping the faith he wins this for all of Americas Sake.

  43. AMEN! Hillary had said that Christians must change their beliefs. Kain has said that The Catholic church will change to allow same sex marriage.

  44. I have never really cared for Beth Moore because I always felt there was something just not right about her and now I can see what it is. She supports the brutal murder of babies.
    She is pro abortion. And she cannot say she isn’t and support/vote for Hillary Clinton.
    So that is that. And Max, I just cannot believe you would do this. I was so surprised.
    Beth, not surprised at all. But you, Max? Very surprised.

  45. My heart is burden with the fact that both Beth and Max whom have such a strong support system of followers, Would challenge our hearts and minds with their negative opinions (one sided) on Trump. They have much power of influence on the young, old, and new baby Christians through their ministries. I for one will not allow what they’ve done (stated) sway me, guilt me, nor make me feel less worthy of being accepted by my Lord and Savior because I choose Trump. Thank you Mario for speaking the truth.

  46. Lets start calling a spade a spade and stop being respecter of persons, as Jesus so perfectly exemplified, for us to follow. Max Lucado is either a DECEIVED CHRISTIAN and/or a CLOSET LIBERAL, because what he promotes and endorses about Donald J. Trump is NOT coming from God and is 100% false and unbiblical reasoning!

    I will never buy another book or anything else from MAX LUCADO and wife. They both also, OWE US A PUBLIC APOLOGY and need to explain WHO THEN are they voting for and why? They also need to answer these questions directly, forthrightly and without equivocation:

    HAVE YOU VOTED FOR DEMOCRATS IN TIMES PAST?
    ARE YOU A REGISTERED DEMOCRAT?
    ARE YOU VOTING FOR HILLARY?
    ARE YOU NOT VOTING?

  47. I am dismayed and deeply troubled by the people I refer to as brothers and sisters in Christ who are voting for Trump I look upon this man all I see is all manor of evilness and vulgarity with no class and here is were we separate church and state I look at his opponent as someone that is infinitely more qualified and nos how our country is run He on the other hand only nos how it run a company and from what I have heard not well.

      1. Why do you think he sees something in Hillary? I agree with Robert and I don’t condone Hillary either.

  48. As a retired minister I am so offended by Beth Moore and Max Lacado’s blog against Donald Trump. What you have done is thrown a fellow Christian under the bus. If I remember correctly you covered, in your bible courses, how we are supposed to help new Christians and not put them down or judge and condemn them for their past actions, however crude. I don’t think you nor I have got so glorified that we can look inside Donald Trump and tell if he is truly saved or not. And for your information, we’re not electing a Sunday School teacher but rather someone who will protect the very fabric of our lives. Do you not know Hillary Clinton is for abortion of millions of babies, open borders to the very enemy that has vowed to kill us, for a one world government, and on and on. And your stance is to take up for women who have accused DT of sexually abusing them. Good Lord, what about all the women who Bill Clinton did abuse and Hillary totally abused. My advice to you is you need to go somewhere and pray to the Great Lord and listen very carefully as he answers. I hate to tell you but if you don’t apologize to all christians, you can kiss your ministry goodbye.

  49. Thanks for posting this. I no longer respect either of these two people, I don’t believe that we are to hold something against someone that happened `11 years ago. That is not what the Bible teaches. I guess they read a different Bible than I do. How many of us including Beth Moore or Max Lacado would want someone to hold something against us that we said years ago?? It is a true shame that people would do this and put our country in such a dangerous situation….

  50. And neither Max nor Beth say anything about ALLLLLLLLLLLLL Hillary has done and is still doing and it’s been going on for decades. A lot of us don’t get it. However, when you’re famous and have an audience people hang on your every word. You want to give your opinion on Trump, fine, equal time for someone way worse than him. Hillary! And to state that you do not know how a Christian can vote for Trump, that’s just plain nasty judgmentalism. Oh wait, sorry, how can anyone vote for Hillary knowing all she’s done. I am trying to figure out how Trump gets hammered and Hillary gets a pass.

  51. Beth Moore and Max Laxcado should practice what they preach ! No more bible studies or book buying !! How can you believe that Trump is wrong and not forgiven!!! For his past before he was born again!!! Hillary is against killing babies but you,two are not forgiving of Trump!! I have bought a lot of you two books! Billy Graham is for Trump !!! Oh I am 68 year old from Iowa and Thank,God I have been forgiven for my sins being a alcoholic for 30 years and only but for the Grace of God sober now 16 years!

  52. Wow, I am appalled too and especially since I just taught a bible class from Beth Moore on the heart of David! Very contradictory of her own lessons there that teach to have a heart like David was to have a compassionate heart – one that forgives and one that repents when God calls the heart to do so! How can she teach this in her books and then not have that forgiveness to Trump when he says he has repented? This is what I see a lot of in the church – a lack of forgiveness to ourselves and to fellow believers! How can we win the world when we do not even love our brothers and sisters in the Lord. God Trump and May God help us all.

  53. This election has ceased to be about the selection of a president based on character, it has become about the selection of a world view. As this article points out there is a very clear choice on who is proposing the best possible choice for a biblical world view and who has and is and will in the future press for the most radical anti biblical world view.
    We only have two choices in this election, since when does an eleven year old recording of Trumps bad mouth and charges from over 20 years ago about his conduct with women hold equal ground with Clintons intentional and vicious attacks of murder against millions of unborn women ? Trump was a billionaire playboy, that’s what they do. He says he has changed his actions ( repented ) . Clinton has never made such a claim and intends to continue pressing for a greater attack on the unborn worldwide if elected. Maybe more folks need to live for a while in Cuba, Venezula, Russia, the Middle East, etc to see where Clinton is committed to taking us as President.

  54. Max and Beth may have been great Christian leaders. But they seem to have forgotten that God used many men in the Bible that as we learn what they were or what they had done would not measure up to man’s idea of being used by God. Seems Max and Beth would have said the same about these men of the Bible. So many Christians are afraid Trump is not what God would use for His purpose…From an outside perspective, we can see that It didn’t matter where people were from, what they had done, or who they use to be; Jesus used all people for the good of His will. Don’t believe me? Here are some examples of people that were used for the greatness of HIS glory.
    Abraham -Was old
    Elijah – Was suicidal.
    Joseph – Was abused.
    Job – Went bankrupt.
    Moses – Had a speech problem.
    Gideon – Was afraid.
    Samson – Was a womanizer.
    Rahab – Was a prostitute.
    Samaritan Woman – Divorced.
    Noah – Was a Drunk.
    Jeremiah – Was young.
    Jacob – Was a cheater.
    David – Was a murderer.
    Jonah – Ran from God.
    Peter – Denied Christ three times
    Martha – Worried about everything.
    Zacchaeus – Was small and money hungry.
    The Disciples – Fell asleep while praying.
    Paul – A Pharisee who persecuted Christians before becoming one.

  55. It’s so difficult for me to even begin to see why ANY Christian would even consider voting for Hillary Clinton. She doesn’t hide her liberal agenda. It’s right there in the open for all to see. Her deceit has now further been exposed thanks to Wiki-leaks. And now I’m going to make a bold a possibly judgemental statement. If you support and vote for Hillary, you cannot call yourself a practicing Christian. If you don’t vote for Trump, it is a vote for hillary.
    You are selling out your country and complicit in the murder of future unborn babies. You are supporting a woman who has no morals or standards and detests evangelicals and catholics. Cast your vote for her and you are guilty by association and betraying God’s Word. I know this is harsh but in reality, the future of this nation is at stake. Once again, I am asking everyone to join me in fasting and prayer on November 8th.

    1. I believe He absolutely would. As a matter of fact, scripture tells us that the kings are set by the hand of the Lord. He often uses people we would not choose ourselves. God is giving us the choice between Trump and Hillary. Nobody is righteous, not one. God is not surprised by Trump’s filthy rags! What is bad is when we choose people based on how righteous we think they are… Nobody is righteous, not one. Often the one who is all cleaned up on the outside and looks best to the people is full of filth in their hearts. At least Trump is honest enough to admit he isn’t perfect. And Trump hates the evil filth that has taken over Washington. He is just the kind of person God would use to drain the swamp. I believe he is the man chosen to do just such the thing.

  56. I am deeply troubled by the very public stance of Max and Beth on an election that has such high stakes for evangelicals, including religious liberty. I believe their statements demonstrate a serious lack of spiritual discernment in these political matters. I can only hope and pray that they publicly retract the statements against Mr. Trump, and soon. Redemption. Grace. The list of Biblical sinners who made a huge impact for God is considerable: Rahab the Harlot, King David the Adulterer, Saul/Paul the Persecutor, Samson the Disobedient …etc… I will not be casting any stones at Mr. Trump. I believe he is the leader this country desperately needs right now.

  57. BES says: WOW YOUR POST UNDER INITIALS ONLY IS ALARMING AND UNTRUTHFUL!!!!
    FIRST OF ALL DON’T KNOW WHERE YOU GOT YOUR INFORMATION, BUT IT’S FALSE PUBLISHING!!! MR TRUMP DON’T BAT AN EYE WHEN HE STATES HE DOES NOT DRINK, SMOKE OR DO DRUGS. hE LOST A BROTHER TO ALCOHOLISM AND HE CREDITS THIS TO HIS NOT DRINKING. FRANKLY,
    I FIND IT HONORABLE ESPECIALLY SINCE MOST OF THE MEN IN THE WORLD DON’T HESITATE TO DRINK AND DO SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS. I DON’T CARE WHAT ARTICLE YOU POST LINKS TO, IT’S LIES….MR TRUMP DOES NOT DRINK OR DO DRUGS AND YOUR SMEAR IS SICKENING. SHME ON YOU LIAR!!!!!

  58. Not sure if the writer just did not know, but Mr Trump asked God’s forgiveness and did so first!! Pastor Jeffries came out and clearly stated he was present when Mr Trump did so which leads me to my next comment. WE are NOT voting for a pastor or religious leader and if we were NO ONE could justify a vote for Hil LIAR y Clinton!!!!! Jesus clearly stated we should forgive one another until seventy times seven and Jesus also stated if we forgive NOT our brother we cannot expect to be forgiven. (not exact quote of scripture). This tells me after Mr Trump asked the world, after asking God, his wife, his family, friends and the American people, you and i have absolutely no right to ever even mention this again. God puts our sins in the sea of forgetfulness and believe me we had better do the same. What im finding here is a bunch of hyprocrites and that’s sickening and much worse that what Mr Trump did, admitted to doing and then asked forgiveness.
    The Clintons are the ones that don’t feel the need forgiveness! RapistNAFTA apologized for one time for the 22year old intern. but not for all of his adulteries while in the WH and Hil LIAR y’s past tells the story of she had no room to criticize her companion! The secret service officer that was assigned to Clinton tells of MANY adulteries in the Oval Office, not just one. By not dealing with her companion she has enabled him to continue his adulteries and get even more dangerous by not dealing with them. Hil LIAR y has stated she wouldn’t have a private e-mail server again BUT has never apologized and given another chance i don’t trust her to not have one again. She does nothing but tells lies!!! They are both criminals
    The abortion for me is an important issue and the fact she spews her garbage out so carelessly is frightening. She expects “We The People” to pay for these murders in tax dollars which is insane. Then she makes us have blood on our hands. Not voting tells me you’re a coward and do not love this country. No wonder God is angry with us. If she wins it will ONLY be because God’s wrath is coming down on America! So i say pray, ask forgiveness if needed and turn from our wicked ways so we can hear once again from God. This is serious people!!! My vote has already been cast for Mr Trump in Texas and must add i could hardly wait to cast my vote for him.
    i will go as far to say this if you do not vote Mr Trump you do NOT love my country and certainly, if you sit this election out, you do not love my country, The United States of America. i prayed many serious prayers before making my decision on voting and God clearly showed me vote Mr Trump. God can use anyone or anything he so desires to get a job done he needs to get done. Let me remind you God used a donkey to get something done and God will use anyone of us even at times we might not ever realize at the time.
    Pray, pray, pray & VOTE!!!!! May God bless and may God help us all.

    1. So, let me make certain I understand what you are saying. Are you saying that only the people who vote for Trump love America? By extension would you then say that if someone does not vote for Trump then they are non-Christian?

      Just wanting to make certain that I am understanding what you are saying.

      Does this mean you can read someone else’s motivations and heart? You know for certain that in their minds and hearts they do not love their country?

  59. Another thought keeps coming to mind the scripture that tells us to work out our own salvation with fear and trembling!!! Nowhere is it written to work out someone else’s salvation with fear and trembling!!!! we all would be wise to work on our own salvation because not one single one reading this is in Heaven yet and we’re not there until we get there!!!

  60. You did the right thing mario.
    Faithfull christians respect watchmen who warn them of those who are leading sheep in the paths of unrightoisness.
    The charismatic movement has been plagued by this idea that judging sin is wrong.
    People who are in leadership positions must be held to account.
    Good job

  61. 6 But when they said, “Give us a king to lead us,” this displeased Samuel; so he prayed to the Lord. 7 And the Lord told him: “Listen to all that the people are saying to you; it is not you they have rejected, but they have rejected me as their king. 8 As they have done from the day I brought them up out of Egypt until this day, forsaking me and serving other gods, so they are doing to you. 9 Now listen to them; but warn them solemnly and let them know what the king who will reign over them will claim as his rights.”

  62. While I completely agree with this article and how we need to look at the bigger picture, I want to ask all you Christians who are showing hate to Beth and Max to do think about your responses. Being hateful to leaders who have led us and encouraged us for years and years?? Perhaps a little compassion and grace as they wrestle with their own convictions and past offenses done to them. They might be wrong, but adding more division to the body by being hateful and ugly is just as bad. Give them room to disagree and pray their eyes would be open. If they truly do hear from God, He will show them what they need to do.

  63. GOD BLESS YOU for speaking the Truth. I can’t believe people can’t see that GOD moved him to the forefront of 17 candidates with Political experience, to use him with HIS HELP, to Save America and bring it back to Greatness again, where we are Respected in the World once again. GOD used men and women in the Bible to do HIS work that we would not have chosen. They weren’t perfect people and they didn’t speak politically correct. Those who support a precious baby being killed in the birth canal will ANSWER TO GOD one day at the Judgement Seat Of Christ. Those doctors suck the brains out of that baby. That baby can feel this procedure and is full term, a living breathing precious child. GOD HELP US and this Country in this Election. GOD is in Control and he can stop any illegal voter fraud and I call on HIS Mighty Power and ask HIM to release HIS Mighty Powerful Angels at HIS disposal and ask GOD to disperse these Angels to do HIS will for this Country and to Protect our Election, Country and Donald Trump and his family.

  64. How sad that Max and Beth don’t know that the minute God raises up a person, the devil is right there to tear them down, and the job of true followers of Christ is to forgive, support, and encourage new followers. How sad that Max and Beth are allowing themselves to be used by the devil instead of exhibiting the grace of God.

  65. I pray that we all join in the Day of Fasting, Nov. 7th, and that God’s will be done.
    Trump is speaking for the unborn (aborted children). Hillary has taken from the Haitian people, defends partial-birth abortion, and is corrupt in her home. She has been part of “detestable practices” (Deut:18). Do your homework. I pray the millennial see her corruption.

  66. Mario, you are refreshing. You are the only minister that i have heard standing up for God’s word. We are not electing a pastor. We are electing a president. This is our 45th president. I believe Trump is Isaiah 45. God is raising up a Cyrus.
    We know that George Soros has rigged the electoral vote by bribery. I know that our God is much , much greater than Soros. If we continue to cry out to God, he will show his glory.
    Mario always speak your heart. When you stand before God, he will be pleased !!!!!

  67. To a certain extent, I understand what Mario is saying here. Point out Clinton’s flaws as well. She is a career politician. She is well versed in saying the “right” thing. Will this simply be business as usual with no real change? She is pro-choice. But as a man of God, don’t continue to slander someone with facts that have been proven over and over again to be false. That is either you continuing to repeat a lie or you not taking the time to fact check your statements. I hope it’s the latter. More than one source has proven that Clinton is not laughing about getting a lesser sentence for a 12-year-old rape victim’s assailant. And the assailant did go to jail. The reason she won? Bad lab protocols and mistakes by the prosecution. Let’s keep in mind, also, that she did not ACCEPT this case. She was a legal aid lawyer (yes, that’s right – helping those who cannot afford an attorney) and she was assigned the case. There is no video as Trump says (another lie) – simply audio. Most of the laughter is from the reporter – not Clinton. And when there is laughter, it has nothing to do with the child. Second, Mario says she is responsible for the deaths in Benghazi. Again, so many have found this to be untrue. If our own government could conduct a 2 year investigation costing US, the taxpayers $7 million dollars, and still NOT find any wrongdoing by Clinton, why would you perpetuate this falsehood? And emails? Who cares about emails? Bush “lost” (i.e. deleted) 22 million emails – and he was President! Pretty sure there had to be something classified in 22 million emails. He was not investigated. No one cared. Look at Snopes, look at Politifact, read the NYTimes, Newsweek, PBS. All of these unbiased, non-affiliated sources have researched. Finally, to all of you commenting that you will not support Beth Moore or Max Lucado any more – that is your right. Doesn’t seem very Christ-like to me. But your right to do as you see fit. You are willing to believe that Donald Trump has asked for forgiveness and become a Christian (even though he has never said so – and certainly shows NO fruits of the spirit) but you judge two who we know to be Christians – I see the fruits of their spirits in everything they do. Each book that is written, each Bible study – all they do to glorify God and help other Christians. So while we are all so concerned about abortion, keep in mind that sin is sin is sin. God makes no distinction between the sin of lying (Mario, proceed carefully), the sin of judgement (only God is judge), hypocrisy (be ye not as the Pharisees) or the sin of abortion. All equal sins in God’s eyes. So be careful to cast the first stone, all of you who are apparently without sin. And trust that Beth and Max and myself have prayed, are concerned, and see equal worry in electing Trump. As Mario pointed out about Trump supporters, we are also using our common sense, are patriotic, and morally cannot support Trump. The only thing I can take refuge in is knowing that God sets up kingdoms and He tears them down and His will will prevail – despite all of us.

    1. Wendy you need to be delivered from your Pharisutical religious spirit. I will pray for your deliverance.

      Oh yeah! Mario didn’t judge anyone HE SPOKE THE TRUTH THAT THE WILLING DEAF DUMB AND BLIND CAN’T SEE.
      If you vote for Hillary you have no clue who Jesus is. You have a converted intellect but never obtained the heart of the father not knowing the heart of the father.
      I might add that I am not concerned about offending a Pharisee. They never could handle the truth anyhow. They are to busydefending their traditions of men and religious doctrines esteeming themselves among their religious spirits.

    2. Wendy, You are turning a blind all to the long path of corruption Hillary leaves behind. I suspect you must watch the mainstream media who whitewashes all that this woman does. The things stated about her ARE true, but with her power and money, she gets away with it. Dig a little into the Clinton Foundation, the Lolita Express, and you will find some disturbing info.

      1. REALLY!?!?!? Don’t know why you would vote for someone who wants the government to run our lives, cheats, lies, will take guns away from people and on and on and on!!!!! You will be sorry! Sad to think people believe her and her unrighteous ways!

  68. I agree 100% and I pray America will wake up before it is to late. Hillary is wicked, selfish, lying cheating person and will stop at nothing to be the next President.

  69. Max and Beth can no longer be trusted with the truth. If you vote the political platform, you will vote Republican. I fear that many have not read the Democratic platform.

  70. I am a pro-life Christian who cannot even consider voting for a Clinton, but here’s the thing: Please don’t delude yourselves into thinking that Trump is a believer. He is saying what you want to hear in order to get elected. And please don’t show ignorance in claiming that what he said “was eleven years ago.” This is clearly who he is- there is simply evidence on tape from eleven years ago. He claims the current accusations from women of sexual assault is false because “none of these woman are attractive enough. I wouldn’t have been interested.” WHAT?! So if they were hot enough he would have considered assaulting them? This is not about Trump detractors being unwilling to forgive. This is a man who has publicly stated that he doesn’t need forgiveness. I’ve read in the comments that Trump loves America. Really? Well, he clearly hates Americans- except the ones that look like him. People, he is a bigot, racist, misogynistic, entitled person. He is. There really is no point arguing this point. It’s just fact and the people who defend him and his ways are trying to make themselves feel better about having to vote for him. Please don’t be deluded. Vote for him if you truly believe he will fight for the unborn, but I don’t believe he will. He was formerly pro-abortion. Did you know that some of his children couldn’t vote for him in the primaries because they didn’t change from registered as Democrat to Republican in time? I’m just saying don’t deceive yourselves. Ask yourself this question- and if you’re brave, respond here: Is there anything that he could say or do to lose your vote? What if he admitted to raping someone just yesterday? What if he said he supported gay marriage? Suppose he said he supports abortion in some circumstances? Let’s just be honest about who he is and why we would consider voting for him. PS This article does to Clinton supporters exactly what the author claims Max and Beth did to Trump supporters. Exactly the same. I know really solid Christians who are supporting Clinton. I know really smart Christians who are supporting Clinton. And when your response is “then they can’t be Christians,” you are doing the exact same thing. We are Christ-followers and I’m convinced Jesus wouldn’t even be involved in this election. I believe that with all my heart. The Zealots wanted him to be their leader and fight the Romans. It’s not why he came.

    1. Darlene, something bigger is happening here than it mattering if Trump’s children are democrats. The shake-up in the political parties are definitely a move of God. You ask if there is anything that would keep him from getting our vote. Many of us have observed Trump for more than thirty years in the business arena. Many of us were democrats when democrats were a godly party. Now they are on a fast track to being anti-God. It has been hard for older southerners and older New Yorkers to leave the democratic party of our parents. Yet the party left us. There are still some middle America democrats who no doubt I would have more in common with than the elite republicans who are shafting the rest of us. I would seriously doubt if anyone is deluded by Trump given his massive exposure in the media for the last thirty five years. Further if you have been in church for a lifetime you know the ups and downs of less experienced Christians very well. If Trump admitted to raping someone would he lose my vote? At this point I think Bill is a rapist and I think Hilary is complicit in his sexual addiction. I think Hilary is so dangerous and on a demonic agenda I would still vote for Trump. Further his family including his remarkable wife are a testimony to the likelihood that he is not still womanizing. Yes I think Jesus would vote for Trump. I don’t think he would campaign for any one candidate given his particular purpose on this earth but I think he would teach his followers to fast and pray. I think he would confront the brood of vipers that are the Clintons and their corrupt thugs.

  71. Thank you for saying what needs to be said. I am a pro-life Christian woman and I voted for Trump for many of the reasons you stated in your article. Thanks so much for having the courage to say what you did about the popular Christians. I am going to share share this article.

  72. God bless your response…I have shared this with others… we are running out of time… praying it will change hearts!! God Bless you, Ruth Ann Gibbs I don’t want my name listed publicly… thanks

  73. Max and Beth are the REAL Christians. Read Matthew 25:35-41, and you’ll find out what Jesus said we will be judged on at the final judgment. If you believe God’s word, you’ll see what really matters to Him. Be sheep, not goats!

  74. For all you Catholics and some Evangelicals please tell me how , when God says in you Bible that he knew you before you were, you know, before the sperm and egg united!! Can write in here you are against abortion when 99+% of you have done it!!! Procreation, is except for abstinance because of medical or Christian service is the SOLE purpose God put humans on earth. And any form of putting off, contraception, pulling out, or anything you or your husband has done to avoid a pregnancy is a form of abortion in the eyes of the church. All Protestant Churches believed this up until the 1930’s.. You can try to say rape is a reason, it isn’t, nor is incest, anything that involves KILLING A FERTILIZED EGG is ABORTION IN GODS EYES!! WHETHER THAT IS 1 nano second or 36 weeks it doesn’t matter to God!! So don’t placate your soul by giving yourself a pass on, The old I douched right after we had sex routine because you prevented a possible child you aborted!!! Or I use an IUD well it keeps fertilized eggs from attaching and is abortion!! Or you marry a woman or a man who can’t have children this is wrong in God’s eyes and when women or men were OR BECAME UNFERTILE it was GROUNDS FOR desolving of the marriage according to the Bible, spilling seed on unfertile ground, you know like tubes being tied or a vasectomy if you were viable!! Let anyone cast the stones if they didn’t just want a child at any time during their life because it might cause a problem or delay your life in some way you are guilty. PROCREATION IS THE REASON GOD PUT MAN AND WOMEN ON EARTH ANY ATTEMP TO AVOID HIS WISHES ARE A FORMOF ABORTION, AND BY BEING CHRISTIAN OR CATHOLIC IS ONE OF THE CROSSES WE BEAR FOR THE GARDEN OF EDEN WITH ADAM AND EVE. GOD IS ETERNAL AND SO ARE HIS PUNISHMENTS!!!!!

  75. I am very analytical by nature and by profession. I have many friends and business associates that say I am honest and discerning. My point in describing myself is that I am not passing judging here but just stating the observations I have made.
    Trump has not clearly and unequivocally declared he is a Christian. He has said the Bible is THE book, he is a Presbyterian, he is a “believer”, etc. Many people have interpreted this to mean he is a Christian, but a true Christian who knows he is saved should clearly say “I am a Christian.” He may be a Christian, only God knows that for sure. If he is a Christian than it appears obvious he is still very young, immature and ignorant of the Christian doctrine, and there is nothing wrong with that. Most of us Christians started our walk with God in the same state, immature and ignorant. Or possibly God is still working on bringing him to salvation, but if that is so Trump appears to be open to that possibility. I am praying for him whatever the situation may be.
    Trump has been very clear that he believes in a traditional interpretation of the Constitution, and specifically freedom of religion, as well as being pro-life. He has business skills that could help our country in terms of jobs, taxes, and the national debt. I do not agree with or condone his language of the past. I sometimes do not like his current language or treatment of others and I plan to hold him accountable for those things and demand better. But he has sincerely reached out to evangelical Christians. His statements and actions demonstrate an openness to and appreciation for the religious underpinnings of our country and that is definitely a good thing.
    I have followed politics closely for the last 34 years so I am well aware of Bill and Hillary Clinton’s public and political life. Hillary has been clear that she does not believe in a traditional interpretation of the Constitution. She has been very clear that Christian beliefs have no place in the public square and religious freedoms should be limited and curtailed. And she supports limits on other freedoms as well, especially the right to bear arms. Hillary has also demonstrated repeatedly over the last 30 years of public life to be congenital liar. And not only a liar but wealth-seeking, power-hungry, and extremely corrupt. That may sound judgmental but just do some research and see for yourself. Dozens of books and multiple thousands of news articles have been written on the Clintons and I don’t have space to write another one here. I can only find one reference that Hillary specifically claimed to be a Christian back in 1994. Otherwise she has only mentioned her Methodist upbringing and other references that many have interpreted to mean she is a Christian. But again, a true Christian is not ashamed to say so and she has not done so in 20 years. But a very important observation is that her stances on religious freedom, abortion, etc. as well as her actions over 30 years clearly demonstrate she is not a Christian. Observations lead me to believe that not only is she not a Christian, her views and actions are decidedly anti-Christian. I cannot make sense of how any mature, Bible believing Christian could support a person who is so staunchly opposed to the Christian faith.
    I am supporting Trump because he is at the very least open to salvation and Christianity, and supportive of religious freedoms, and at best a new Christian that needs godly guidance and discipling.
    I cannot support Hillary Clinton because her words, actions, and policies, as well as the Democratic party platform, stands in direct opposition to the words and teachings of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

  76. I absolutely agree with everything that you have stated. As an evangelical Christian, I am absolutely astounded concerning the lack of integrity within our election, as well as the obliterating attacks from ALL angles.
    From what I have read, on many accounts, the nomination of Trump is a prophecy- and when you see the horrible- absolutely horrible attacks from every mainstream media and politician possible – this is a BIG event. Trump is the ONLY one BIG enough to withstand the deceit and catastrophic attacks from everywhere. The Liberals are concerned that Trump actually might WIN and they are mounting every attack possible! He needs our back and this may be the ONLY time possible to turn the deceitful political process around. PLEASE… vote TRUMP!!

  77. I am sure that Max and Beth felt lead to speak up. I was very disappointed as a Christian that fellow christians have forgotten we are to let our light shine and help those who are searching. My thoughts do line up with what you said in your article. We are to lead by example and pray steadfastly, forgive and spread the good news. I pray for our country,our leaders but mostly I pray for a turn back to the Lord and the Bible. It is our hope.

  78. Someone above said that Trump has repented and asked for forgiveness. I’m sorry, I must have missed this because the last thing I remember him saying publicly is that he doesn’t have anything to ask God for forgiveness for. Don’t be blinded people….both Trump and Clinton are wrong for our nation. There is no good in either one of them. Yes, we need to vote for Trump in order to give the Republican Party the upper hand and to therefore, vote in a strong republican Supreme Court; however, indicating Trump has a heart to do good for the American people is completely idiotic. Trump only wants to do good for Trump and what will line his pockets even more. Trump only wants control of more. Both of them are tyrants in a different way. One is quiet and sneaky and the other outspoken and rude. The one thing I do fear about Trump is that he may start another huge war because of his inability to stay level headed when someone questions him. He can’t even stay calm when being questioned by Anderson Cooper! Do you think he is going to stay calm and make level headed decisions when questioned by one of the leaders of a nation who hates America? I fear BOTH of them!
    And let’s just be honest…….WE THE PEOPLE voted for these two candidates. WE THE PEOPLE decided that Trump instead of Cruz would be better to lead our nation. I think every one of us is wondering how that happened. Now, we are trying to back paddle in order to feel good about what WE THE PEOPLE have done.
    Signed,
    Voting for Trump – Praying for Our Nation

    1. Sheryl,
      I’ve heard Mr. Donald Trump say definitively he’s a Christian and that he believes in the bible completely. And that he wants to keep the Pastors safe from being overreached federally for hate speech by using the bible in their sermons. Mr. Trump says at every rally, “One nation, under One God, governed by the people for the people!” As to lining his own pockets…back in 1989, Mr. Donald Trump helped me and my brother in our private business in Scottsdale and Phoenix AZ. He did’t have to do that, but he believed in what we were trying to do entrepreneurially, and so he formally endorsed our businesses. Trump didn’t know us personally, he did’t give us money, but he gave us something much more valuable, moral SUPPORT and endorsement and that lead to us having years of publicity and favor in a very competitive marketplace business.
      Sheryl, I understand your cynicism, and am glad you’re voting for Mr. Trump, but I do know from experience that Mr. Trump does have a heart for helping others and is very patriotic. Yes Trump’s often bombastic and verbose, but please try to remember Jesus spoke about God loving to confound the wise in their own eyes and reveal the truth to the uneducated and babes. Though Mr Trump is highly educated in the realm of the natural world, maybe NOW Christ wants to educate him in the Spiritual realm and the Kingdom of God. Let’s keep praying together, that if Trump makes it, he will be blessed and favored of The Lord to do us good and not harm, to give us a hope and a future, until we meet with Jesus in the air, nothing here will be as solid or right as it should. Blessings..C

  79. There are certainly a lot of constitutional and saving our country reasons I am voting for Trump, but the most credible reasons are the changes he has made in his life and his acknowledgement of God’s power and our prayers for him and our country. He humbled himself to apologize for his errant ways. God is in his Cabinet.

  80. A divided house cannot stand. As Christians we do need to stand united. We have been and are still continue to bicker and devour one another over not picking issues. None of us is without sin. I have prayed and fasted. I believe the Holy Spirit spoke to me to vote for him and give him grace and continue to pray for him. and even though Trumps actions are not acceptable they are in the past and he repented. Also I do pray for Hiliary also to repent and change from her wicked ways. I felt as if this was a government of Jezebel shutting the mouths of the prophets and it looks like she is being succeful as she tries to continue to divide us. I would just ask that we fast and pray and ask the Holy Spirit who to vote for not the media! It is manipulative ( spirit of witchcraft is on most of it) we are in the world not of it so get your orders from your King not the world

  81. I understand Mario’s article, but I don’t see anything in his article that even remotely suggests that we “demonize” Max Lucado or Beth Moore, or Falwell at Liberty, or any other Christian leader who may disagree, or stop following them, or whatever…that is your choice, of course, but we need to stop doing exactly what we accuse others of doing….I don’t ever agree with everything any Christian leaders say, including Max and Beth, but I respect them, and I respectfully choose to disagree with them on this issue, but I will not trample them underfoot!!! They are my brothers and sisters in Christ!

  82. Thank you, Mario Murillo! You have said exactly what I have been feeling since both Max Lucado and Beth Moore spoke out. There seems to be a lack of discernment by some Chrisitan leaders on what the real issues are in this election! So much at stake. It is no time to fall into political correctness or deception by the media.

  83. God voted to keep David in office even after David did much worse things than Trump could ever imagine. Moore and Lucado have no place to speak considering their actions will result in a Hillary Presidency.

  84. Thank you for this article. I believe you are spot on. I appreciate your willingness to speak out for Christians and publically share what most of us believe. Please, keep on speaking out.

  85. The fact that we have this horrible contentious election is more proof that people do not look at character to elect a president. So, stop looking at character and vote for the platform. We have no hope but Jesus!

  86. Oh, LORD GOD, please open the eyes of the so called elite who are being deceived and worse deceiving others!! I, too, am very surprised at the stance of Max & not so much at Beth… stopped reading her stuff years ago… Felt it in my spirit! I agree with you all.. votes for Hillary are votes for pure evil! Please, true Christ followers… don’t throw away your vote by not voting for Trump! Trump + Pence =TRUMPETS!!! LOOK UP, GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL BUT VERY SADDENED WITH BEING DISHONORED & DISBELIEVED! PRAISE THE LORD FOR HIS MERCY & GRACE on this Country if We will pray… He will listen!!! HUGS FROM HEAVEN!!!!!

  87. Hillary supports women’s right to murder their own babies and never mentioned the unborn baby’s right to live. Life begins on conception.
    2 Kings 21:16, 24:3,4 speaks of King Manasseh’s shedding of innocent blood; which the Lord would not pardon.This is abortion in modern day. America had murdered millions of babies who can’t defend themselves. So as a true believer of Jesus Christ,why will I vote for Hillary? God have mercy on us!

  88. I am in complete agreement!

    How can any one naming the name of Christ vote for a woman who embodies every point detailed in Proverbs 6:16-19, on a continuing basis, that are identified as hated by God and considered an abomination.

    Don Cole wrote a similar piece here: https://www.facebook.com/donald.e.cole/posts/10207707056410115

    The link to his sermon is at the bottom… It is quite blunt. He shared out of Ezekiel 33

    I shared a similar thought here: http://www.houseofmyrrh.org/LPC/Saturday%202016-10-01.mp3

    I shared out of Ezekiel 22:30-31 My recording was outside and spur of the moment so lacks professional quality. Sorry.

    I hope these two pieces encourage your heart and give you some grace as you speak the truth.

    Neither Don or I are “ministers”… He’s Baptist… I’m Pentecostal…

  89. I have never vacillated on any one decision in my entire life! I go back and forth, back and forth with every argument listed in all the above comments. I don’t say anything about Hillary because, to me it is a given, I would never even consider voting for her and I’ll leave judgement on her to God. My biggest reasons to vote Trump would be Abortion and The Supreme Court, for all the obvious reasons. But then I keep hearing….God can do anything….ANYTHING! I need to trust GOD, not man. And then I go back and think, Well, this is the process our country uses so I have to vote for either one. The truth of the matter is, it is a 2 person race, unfortunately. And then I go back to No, I don’t. I have to follow and trust God. And back and forth. And truth be told, I have done everything mentioned above in the comment with the bible giants….who failed over and over. And truth be told, I did things 10 years ago I would never dream of doing now. BUT, but, but…… I never prayed so hard about a decision in my life. Today on Moody, I heard a very godly man say something that struck me…..If you don’t fight for something, you loose it. Mmmmmm I went to send in my ballot today, and crossed it out…..again!! I need another ballot!! All I know is this…..More than anything I want my vote to glorify my Jesus. I want to vote worshipful. I want peace in my heart when I walk away. I know God sees my heart….thankfully! And I know I can trust my Savior with anything, and know He can do anything. Me, on the other hand, not so much. I pray when I make my final vote somehow it will be pleasing to my Lord. I pass no judgement on anyone of my brothers or sisters, this is a tough one. I am praying for my brothers and sisters that however they vote, the will surrender their heart in doing so, glorify God, worship Him and have peace when you walk away from the ballot. Thank God Jesus is Lord!!!!!

    1. I have listened to Beth Moore , her testimony, she is a survivor of sexual abuse, and a lifestyle that followed before coming to Christ. Her testimony is one of forgiveness. Perhaps she and Max do not know that over a year ago, Donald Trump gave his life to Christ, that comes on good reliable authority of Dr. Ben Carson, Dr. Dobson and many others Pastors who have met with him. Yes He is a rough babe in Christ. But if God forgave Beth, Max, myself and the multitudes and God put the past under the Blood of Christ. So should they, if Beth’s past hurts are truly not let go of as she has preached, she needs to step back. To try to convince other Christians not to vote for Trump now or not to vote at all gives place to Hillary who has blatantly stated an unborn child is not a citizen and has no governmental rights even up to the day of birth. She has gone after Evangelicals and spewed warnings of reckoning’s to come for Christians. She will increase all gay homosexual rights over Christians. Not to mention the security of this Country. Beth needs to do more research before she judges someone for sins of the past. In Christ it is all forgiven. Yes he is a rough loud mouth and I dare say ADHD babe in Christ. It is our job as mature older Brothers and sisters to now intercess and pray for him. He has also chosen a team of Godly men to advise him.

  90. Thank you so very much for expressing how I feel also. I am SO disturbed by EVERY SINGLE newspaper article, TV news program (except FOX), etc just battering Trump while Hillary is made to look like a sweet smelling rose! Whatever happened to unbiased news reporting? You certainly can’t count on that anymore! My local paper even had an article about HIllary’s faith this past weekend! I nearly gagged. While I can NEVER be the judge of anyone’s personal faith, when the ACTIONS ( like lying, coverups, deception, condoning murder, etc) don’t follow the confession of faith, then one has to wonder.
    I am very very disappointed in Beth and Max. They were 2 of my favorites. Sad that even these 2 great leaders have been sucked in by the vacuum of secular humanism.

    1. may God speak to their hearts and minds soon…it is never too late but a shame if true Evangelical Christians follow their lead!!

  91. I have listened to Beth Moore , her testimony, she is a survivor of sexual abuse, and a lifestyle that followed before coming to Christ. Her testimony is one of forgiveness. Perhaps she and Max do not know that over a year ago, Donald Trump gave his life to Christ, that comes on good reliable authority of Dr. Ben Carson, Dr. Dobson and many others Pastors who have met with him. Yes He is a rough babe in Christ. But if God forgave Beth, Max, myself and the multitudes and God put the past under the Blood of Christ. So should they, if Beth’s past hurts are truly not let go of as she has preached, she needs to step back. To try to convince other Christians not to vote for Trump now or not to vote at all gives place to Hillary who has blatantly stated an unborn child is not a citizen and has no governmental rights even up to the day of birth. She has gone after Evangelicals and spewed warnings of reckoning’s to come for Christians. She will increase all gay homosexual rights over Christians. Not to mention the security of this Country. Beth needs to do more research before she judges someone for sins of the past. In Christ it is all forgiven. Yes he is a rough loud mouth and I dare say ADHD babe in Christ. It is our job as mature older Brothers and sisters to now intercess and pray for him. He has also chosen a team of Godly men to advise him.

  92. Please get on your knees and ask God to change His mind about what he may
    do to our godless society. We have brought this on ourselves and it will take a truly repentant people to change our destiny. We don’t deserve His grace but we beg for His mercy.
    America needs revival and it won’t happen if we are constantly arguing over who said what and who is less sinful. Please pray instead of watching
    Fox News. We want our country to be
    great but we want God’s favor on His people once again.

    1. You are correct. I shared a message from Ezekiel 22:30-31 about how we’ve been derelict in our duties as regards to being salt and light and standing in the gap.

      Don Cole preached a similar sermon from Ezekiel 33…

      We absolutely have been derelict and we absolutely, “we” Christians need to fall on our faces and practice 2 Chronicles 7:14

      However, with this election we are being given a choice as to how far down into the pit we slide, the depth of God’s indignation and (perhaps) extend the church age…

      Voting is part of our duty as both Gatekeepers and being Salt and Light. Remember that salt cannot protect that which it is not mixed into.

      If you can’t support the person then vote the platform.

      Not voting is a vote for the enemy.

      Remember that killary fulfills every point of Proverbs 6:16-19 on an unrepentant and continuing basis.

      If we fail in this I fear that God’s indignation will fall on the American church as He visits on us “First Judgement”.

  93. I believe God is using Trump and Trump has surrounded himself with Christians. He has apologized and humbled himself and asked for forgiveness. I believe in forgiveness and I believe in the Holy Bible, therefore I have thrown out all my Beth Moore books, tapes and study guides. I believe that she is going against the Bible and I do not feel I can no longer follow her. Beth and Max will have to answer to someone much bigger than me one day and I don’t want to have to answer for going against God’s Will and Word.

  94. I was applaud at the articles I read from Max and Beth’s writings. I immediately started praying for them to be able to ask for forgiveness and for the Lord to show them how they have hurt many people. This is their decision, and they have the right to their opinion. Having said that, I disagree with them both. And, will continue to pray for the Lord to place a burden upon their hearts.
    In absolutely no circumstances could I vote for HRC. The Supreme Court nominee is the biggest reason for me to not vote for her. Plus, many many more things! Yes! Abortion is another good reason. How can anyone destroy a miracle God has formed. Its beyond me!!
    I voted yesterday for Donald J. Trump (early voting) and placed my hand on his name and ask God to favor the American people and give American one more chance if it is his will.
    So many times we all say, God Bless America, well people, it’s time for the American people to Bless God!!

  95. I certainly do not like how Trump say things at times but I would not at any cost vote for Hillary. I so totally agree with your post. Going to put it on my facebook page, going to get bolder about why I m voting for Trump. For me it is simple, I am voting for a president not a pastor to run our country. Ouor country needs strong leadership not leadership that is for themselves and have never said they were sorry for any mistake they have made. By the way we put a Trump/Pence sign in our yard, our neighbor has one but I think we are only the only two in our neighbor that has one. But no one has a Hillary sign anywhere where we live. Great posts, thanks for putting this out.

  96. Reblogged this on bettydraper1947 and commented:
    I am usually not a political person, but this election year I am. Why, because of the past 8 years I have begin to really fear for my grandchildren future in America. I feel my freedom to be and speak openly about my faith are being slowly taken away due to the leaders of our country. This post speaks better then I ever could about my take on what is happening in the Christian whelm today.

  97. How can a self proclaimed Christian put comments made eleven years ago, over the fact that Hillary supports and perpetuates the slaughter of the innocent of no wrong doing baby in the womb and out of the womb, she also voted against the Infant Born Alive Protection Act.

  98. I LOVED Max Lucado. I had his devotions, study Bible, and books. The minute he came out against The Donald without so much of a word against Hillary, I immediately went out and bought a new Bible (Jeremiah Study Bible), and donated all his books.

    His hipocrosy astounded me in the beginning, but now it saddens me. It’s okay to not be informed (as he clearly is not), but he should have never thrown his two cents into the mix.

    He finds Donald Trump offensive but not the multitude of babies aborted EVERY DAY?

  99. This is exactly why we never exalt a man or woman. Who do they think they are to use a God-given platform to voice their personal opinions. Beth still has unforgiveness issues that need healing. This election is not about them and their personal views. We need to always go to the Word of God for direction and guidance, never man. God says murder is wrong. God says gay marriage is wrong. Adultery, lying,stealing are all wrong. The Clintons are guilty of all these and so much more. No one has proven any allegations against Trump. If they were true someone would have done something years ago. I do not appreciate that these two think anyone is asking for their opinions, that is all they are personal opinions. We are to look to God in prayer and in His Word, never to the opinion of man. They need to lose the platform God has given them because clearly they have abused it.

  100. ALL! Yes God is sovereign, Yes God is all powerful, Why then would he search for a man to stand in the gap, Ezekiel 22:30-31, and then get so indignant about not finding someone that He visited His wrath not on the sinners but on His own, for not stepping up?

    A lot of you believe in the authority of the believer, but not the responsibility of the believer!

    Or, look at the penalty God exacts when the warning goes forth and no one heeds it, Ezekiel 33

    Yes, we are called to preach the Gospel.

    We are also called to be Salt and Light…

    Salt cannot prevent decay unless it is mixed in with that which it is supposed to protect…

    By the same token we have a choice and duty before God to interact in the political arena to preserve what God has given us.

    No where in Scripture is God called salt. That means to prevent decay we must be involved!

  101. Men socialize by insulting each other but they don’t really mean it. Women socialize by complimenting each other… they don’t mean it either.

  102. I must say, it is the times we are living. Christians will be deceived and if they are going to judge others it is God’s place to reproach. I am disappointed that they have impacted some votes possibly: however, we must trust God. Finger pointing gets us nowhere. So just vote what God says to vote and trust HIM to make things right no matter how it falls. We must stay focused on the Lord. This is just a distraction for ALL which is the intention of the enemy. TRUST TRUST TRUST GOD

  103. Thank you, thank you for speaking the truth in a loving and honorable way. I too was very disappointed and saddened, as a minister myself, that both of these well-known and well-respected anointed Christian leaders did what they did. It only allowed for more confusion and lack of unity within Christ’s body. I personally appealed to one of these leaders myself, but the response did not indicate that that leader has any regret for the position they took. I was deeply troubled and saddened. I recognize God’s anointing on them for the kingdom’s sake and wish them no ill or harm, and certainly recognize their fruitfulness and ministry callings. But truth is truth. Every leader bears a responsibility to use his or her position of influence to help guide their audience in the right direction and for the right reason. I do not know the exact reasons these leaders took their positions, but they have not led the people in their audience to support the right candidate, which I concur and believe to be Donald Trump, nor have they spoken against the greater evils of a Hillary Clinton presidency! Therefore, their audience remained in confusion or, worse yet, a state of complacency or apathy. I am voting for Donald Trump – not because I think he’s a perfect candidate. He certainly is flawed – but I believe he is anointed and appointed by the Lord for such a time as this and will do the greater good and lesser evil for our great land. God can use him as He did with Cyrus and others to bless His people in America and Israel. For me, the choice is crystal clear, and I pray that all those in the audience of Max and Beth will find that truth to be real for them also! May God grant us His mercy and the unity of the Holy Spirit in this election year.

  104. If King David was a man after God’s own heart, and He used David in a mighty way, don’t you think He can do the same with Donald Trump? I see signs of repentance with him. I see no signs of repentance with Hillary Clinton — only pride and arrogance. I lost all respect for anyone who calls themselves a brother or sister in Christ who voted for Obama and the same holds true for those who say they will vote for Hillary. 2 Cor. 6:14 asks, “…Or what union hath light with darkness?” Out of context? I think not. Some say we are not to let politics divide us, however, when we look at the destruction that the left has wrought upon our country the past six decades or so, is it not those that stand with anti-Christ spirit who are doing the dividing rather than those who proclaim the truth? Sorry. But if you vote for Hillary Clinton, we cannot have fellowship, for I will have nothing to do with someone who doesn’t hate evil enough when it is within his or her own power to help vanquish it; nor loves good enough to promote it. 2 Tim. 1:7 says, “For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.” 1 Peter 5:8-9 says, “Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.” Can you say your vote for Hillary was a sober-minded act? Is it not quite clear what is good and righteous and what is wicked and evil? I will pray for the Hillary voter, however, that your eyes would be opened to truth and that you would have your faith shape your politics, not your politics shape your faith. Anybody who could vote for one who promotes the killing of the innocent child in the womb and who would stick their middle finger into God’s face by disregarding His Word and supporting/promoting homosexual “marriage” is no brother or sister of mine.

    1. Finally someone who else within the lower profile Bride of Christ who speaks the TRUTH!… thx’s Michael Swanson. Righteous right on! It is so true and IN The Light what you’ve said regarding those who would have the temerity to vote for Hillary R Clinton and say they’re a true Christian. Of course this whole Obama/Clinton “thing” is meant to serve the Globalist party regime. They have NO intention of keeping our nation as an independent and sovereign country, this is actually bigger than it appears to be. Much to do with the Bilderbergs elitist society. And that’s not conspiracy theory it’s just a well known fact. Inclusively, who, how and when did God in Christ change His holy mind on the issue of gender, marriage and the sanctity of LIFE?? Nope, these who pander to the world, adopting their culture of thought, are NO brother and sister in Jesus Christ – of mine. “Only hold onto what you have, that NO one take your crown, ” Revelation 3:11,

  105. I always wondered why I could never listen to Moore or Max, now I know why. They are not led by the Spirit of God. I just wonder how much they received to come out like this for Hillary Clinton. Murio Marillo is led by God. God chose Donald Trump, not because he is a Christian, but because he has the backbone and knowledge and will to do what is right for this country. If Max and Moore do not understand the consequences of their actions and the thousands they will influence to do the wrong thing, then they are really not too bright. They surely know that Clinton will put Supreme Court Justices in office who will further abortion and take away our religious liberties. It is amazing to me that they do not have any common sense about these things. Wow! Keep standing for what you are standing Mario, and do not let satan intimidate you through people who are not really dedicated to God. God Bless you for standing for what is right.

  106. God let this happen to show us that we should only follow Jesus. We may follow Christian leaders if they follow Jesus closely. But heed, if they ever take a detour, they are on their own for a adventure without God, we will continue to follow Jesus.

  107. Beth Moore is close to the Bush family according to some that would know. The Bush family has effectively silenced lot of their political friends and allies from standing with the Republican nominee Donald Trump. Watch for it in Texas, Florida and nationally. The Bush family except one has been trashing Trump and slinging mud every chance they get even going so far as to be rumored or announced that President Bush senior is going to vote for Hillary. Even the Bush daughters have taken the time to get in the media and complain about Trump. Barbara Bush has appeared out of nowhere coming out strong against Trump. On and on. Max Lucado is from Texas. Beth Moore is from Texas. Could they both have ministered to the Bush’s? And could the Bush’s be supporters of theirs? I believe Beth finally had a “tangible” reason to come out against Trump. Her reasons don’t hold water Biblically. If she needs healing now is a good time to get it. If she needs to become independent from the Bush family then now is the time to do it. Max needs to pray over your letter and seek the Lord’s will in prayer.

  108. Hi JoyInTheHouse,
    I used to respect the Bush’s and voted for George W., but when I saw how they were treating the Conservative people’s choice in Mr. Donald J Trump, I was so disappointed in them frankly I couldn’t hardly believe it. Then when it came out that the Clinton’s and Bush’s had been such close friends for over 20 years it began to make sense. And so now it also makes sense that Beth Moore and Max L., could also be allies within this circle. Haven’t any of these people listened to other “stronger” Christians like Mike Huckabee, Dr. Robert Jeffress, Dr. Ben Carson, Lance Wallnau, Franklin Graham, etc. There are SO many who do get it and do understand and ferociously are opposed to everything the Clinton/ Obama’s stand for.
    In the case of Texans they are a very loyal people to anything or anybody Texas – and I get that…but this is about the difference between light and dark, good and evil, so regional loyalty must take a BACK seat! Furthermore, back in 1989, Mr. Donald Trump helped me and my brother in our business in Scottsdale AZ. He did’t have to do that, but he believed in what we were trying to do entrepreneurially, and so he formally endorsed our businesses. Trump didn’t know us personally, he did’t give us money, but he gave us something much more valuable, moral SUPPORT and endorsement and that lead to us having years of publicity and favor in a very competitive marketplace. So Mr. Trump was carnal 11 years ago when he said wrong things about how much he digs women…there are much worse pervasive sins than heterosexual carnality. At least we know Mr. Trump wants women and not his own gender!! Think about what Jesus said to the ones about to stone to death, the town harlot, ” YOU who are without sin cast the first stone!” They all then dropped their stones and walked away.

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